Amazing AVL Transformation!! - CROWNCAST - Episode 2

Join us as we walk through a brand new Audio/ Video/ Lighting design and installation for a church in Indiana. New Hope Christian Church partnered with Crown Design Group to outfit their new building expansion. This tasteful modern design brings NHCC into current AVL technology with room for growth and expansion as they continue to grow. #LAcoustics #Absen #Chauvet #Elation #Shure #AllenandHeath #blackmagicdesign #Resi

PODCAST TRANSCRIPT

welcome to Crown cast episode two episode two so episode one went

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viral uh my mom and s seven other people watched it tens and tens of plays and I

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think uh I think we we just edged out Joe Rogan's podcast for top podcast in

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the nation I mean we're episode two so we're pretty much seasoned

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Pros season veterans podcast professionals right um we've got all the

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Kinks worked out it's going to be amazing so today we want to go over a

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project that just finished yeah um it is the New Hope Christian Center Church job

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Christian Church Center something like that yeah New Hope is what I call it yeah New Hope for short that's what we

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say where is this job this is up in Indiana so Whitestown Indiana it's

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outside of Indianapolis um so definitely out of our

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neighborhood here this was not a local job obviously I'd never been up there before I mean I don't yeah I live in

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Paradise here in Florida I don't know why I'd go there but nice people yeah

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yeah I mean I've been there a lot traveling before but um it's always a it's always a bit of a

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challenge being out of town just out out of town I mean out of town in Florida is a challenge but going out of state is

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kind of a whole new whole different level logistical nightmare logistical Nightmare on every level yeah so we're

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going to get into that today yeah driving the truck up bringing pre-commissioning racks here bringing it

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up doing the whole thing shipping yeah all kinds of stuff y every time I was up there uh especially with Keegan every

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Uber that we took uh they're all like oh yall heading over this area it's the bougie part of town I was like why does

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everyone think we're so bougie we had like a bougie uh I don't know like VI A vibe a

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bougie Vibe I don't even know why I think I was just you wearing this stuff but so that's New Hope area is the new

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is a kind of a bougie area well an up and cominging area no well I don't know they kept saying areas that I didn't

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know about I'm like well we're going to Whitestown we're doing uh doing this project uh the area that they're in

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apparently is grown pretty quick so so Luke one of our one of our our boys uh

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he uh he's from that area yeah and he's seen it in the Last 5 Years just that little section just Bo boom blow up

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right got a lot of churches in the area apparently a lot of cool churches yeah um New Hope is a a pretty old church um

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I met a guy there that has six generations of family members that have

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gone to that church that's crazy he's actually uh in government there and last time I talked

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to him he was heading to bra Brazil with the governor um to do some like trade thing so he's tell he's so we're talking

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to him he's telling me all the uh his family members so like I don't know great grandma or something like that

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yeah and then go went on down and then now he has kids and grandkids that go to that church it's kind of cool I mean

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yeah we've been in the church World long enough to know if a church lasts that long I mean right they got some solid

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solid Roots right and that was one of their big uh worries up to launch they

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were constantly talking about uh we don't want to be the big mega church

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thing which I totally understand like uh just so you know we don't only work with mega

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churches uh we think there's places for all these churches we think there's places for all these different types of

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gatherings I mean there's different types of people you going have different types of churches you're going have different types of styles of worship so

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so they were very concerned about like all right we're doing this bigger room it's like mod

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uh we don't want it to be too modern we want it to still be traditional we still want to have family it's all about

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family it's all which I love yeah but they were very concerned and I think they I think we pulled it off I think

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the design and the way it looks and the way it sound everything lends itself to

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like a modern traditional that's what I just call it yeah it's it's tasteful the

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word I always like to use for it yeah and in some projects they don't really care about tasteful they want want big

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everything bright big sound you know big stuff because it's very production driven yeah you go wild there's some

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taste in that too yeah there is but in places like this where it is a more traditional Church um yeah there they

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are way more concerned with that with that kind of stuff and especially with um their their members of the church and

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their givers and they're used to a certain thing and then they walk into this brand new place it looks completely

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different right and it's there's bells and whistles for sure there's some eye candy for sure on the

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production stuff but yeah we do it with taste and they can grow into it and they

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don't have to go crazy wild show with it but they could if they wanted but they can tone it down they can just use

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whites with the lights and that kind of thing yeah and we're going to show that right so they did want to you know dip

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their toes in right they didn't want to have like a a sensory over like all

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these people to come in and like you know they have an older congregation you know actually it was a really good mix

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they had young youngans there I like oh dang these you know this these these hip cool kids are hanging out right all

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these old people um it was a really good blend yeah but yeah you don't want to give people heart attacks yeah I mean we

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could if we wanted to that's a good mix though I like when it's I like when it's young to old there's some new blood that

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have new ideas and stuff but there's the old wisdom that's there and you know helping helping to hold things together

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I think it's a good mix and yeah that's one of the big benefits of community

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churches is that you get the mix of age you get that wisdom you get that interaction between the young people and

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the old people right um that's what we're losing is people stop going to church like now what you're just only

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hanging out with young people your own age and you don't you're not gleaning from that wisdom but any who yeah it's a

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cool it's a cool project though yeah it's it's not outside of our box cuz we

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check a lot of boxes with designs and stuff that we do but it isn't the typical Square big production mega church

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building right it's more traditional and aesthetic looking and yeah architectural

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features and that kind of stuff that all plays into the role of Av stuff as we're going through the design right so how

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how do we uh how do we get this project how'd that happen do you remember this came uh through Luke actually that

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contact through Luke what we were talking about before he grew up in that area and actually went to that church I'm pretty sure um and and knew they

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were going to be building a new building right and this was this was years ago these projects takes take years that's a

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podcast people don't we work on projects for years A lot of times but yeah there was like a couple years in the making

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yeah so I think two years of contact you know from first Contact I guess yeah it

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was just a lot of our projects happen that way where we have just a connection with somebody right because we're pretty personal and um that goes a long way so

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it it kind of just started through Luke and then we made a contact with them and obviously you have to still show that

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you're reliable company and trusting and can do it actually do the job so yeah they uh I heard a couple

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people uh from their leadership say things like I don't know why we're hiring this Florida company to come all

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the way up here and do this he goes but after I've seen you guys work and after seeing the project I'm glad we did yeah

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like three or four of their leadership said that and I was like well yeah there's a reason like this doesn't just

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happen yeah and this is creative this is technical this is uh you know managing a

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massive project so it's it doesn't just happen there's only one Crown as on group and we just happen to be in

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Florida yeah it I mean it makes it more challenging that it's out of state but um I think it was well worth it I think

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it's a cool job I think it's you know a different look and it's fun to make

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happen so yeah so we just finished this so so I we launched it we they had their

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first services this this Sunday right so I was there uh got a bunch of pictures

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we're going to go through this whole design right now we're going to go through the design site management

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issues y uh the whole thing uh and and and walk you through it really what what

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okay we're back thank you commercial cheers uh for all the money you're giving us or not because it's probably

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our company yeah that Crown care um so yeah let's jump into it so this project

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uh Whit toown Indiana uh traditional Church New Hope

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they want to they were currently or or I guess before now they're in the new one before they were in a smaller room uh it

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was a second or third edition so there's building is just kind of like grown grown grown grown expanded like you know

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the old section turned into the kids wing and then it went to the next building and then this is a a pretty

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significant addition uh this building it was a lobby area uh main

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Auditorium uh production Suites classrooms green

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room and like a conference rooms so it was a pretty pretty large um

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addition and it wasn't just like like all right let's do a big box we we want it to be aesthetically pleasing we want

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it to be retain the DNA of their Church yeah uh but bring it you know bring it

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up bring it up a little bit make it a little bit more new make it a little bit more uh modern but not without losing

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the you know the I don't know what the word is the the DNA that that little bit

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of new hope that they that really they really want to retain yeah they wanted to modernize um what they had and the space

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they had was too small so that was their main issue it wasn't like the building was falling apart it was just too small

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and they were having multiple services and that whole thing want to turn that Mand on oh yeah so this is I've got some

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video of the um of their old room so let's take a look so you can see small

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stage kind of a funny uh ceiling I guess I kind of did that to hide front

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lighting which is on uh it's like on a a

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rail and then uh you know I it probably seated what do you think Ben their old

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one yeah what do you think um 250 yeah maybe

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like 300 maybe yep so you know pretty standard this is

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a pretty standard looking room pretty standard looking uh uh you know this is

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kind of how you start when when you're doing these these projects but let me take a look at some other ones here so

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then we have front house area they have some cameras um they're rocking the

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sq6 I think we got that for them I think that was an addition that we did um a

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year before they moved in so we're like yeah we well you might as well buy if you need a new console you might as well

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buy something that we'll use in the next phase in that next building yeah we do that a lot too I think in building

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projects because like we said they take a long time it just doesn't happened in you know a couple months it's a couple

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years usually right but yeah a lot of times their their equipment will be kind of worn out or old so they

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will pre-purchase basically some equipment that they're going to be use for the new building anyway Y and that

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way they can just go and start using it right get used to it yeah start training on it yeah here's a rack in the

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back those are their speakers I don't know what they were uh and I don't know if that uh is legal but what is above

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the drop ceiling it it looks like a Home Depot special uh no offense to anyone

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out there that installed that but hey making it happen I think we have new methods now it it stayed up well it

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didn't fall it didn't kill anyone so uh win there but uh yeah needless to say we did

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not utilize their Old Pa we got them a new PA big upgrade big upgrade okay so

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that was their old that was our old room so pretty traditional and then they're going to be building onto that so um

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let's jump into the the design we can take a look at the design real quick see some of the

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creativity all right so here's my design document all right so here are some

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Concepts once again um crooked ey Keegan my bro uh did a great job um

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conceptualizing this room uh there was a lot of um creative elements to this

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room uh we helped design the shape of it the stage the uh the sidewalls the the

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ceiling clouds um front of house uh the production Suite the Rack

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Room like we had a lot of fingerprints on this thing yeah we had a lot of input

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in this in this building yeah which by the way is the equation for a great

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successful project well we think differently so we're not Architects but

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we can still think that way with walls and shapes and placements of of things

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and um we're not electricians but we think that way too and thinking through

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future use of things and right and items but yeah we and we're creative people so

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we can think that way too even as far as like interior design stuff I mean we're you know really helping shape rooms and

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designing these uh walls and and the ceiling clouds like you said yeah um a

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lot of that's purposeful too so it's both a an aesthetic thing but also you know we need to uh limit the amount of

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parallel walls in the room right for for audio reasons yeah anytime you can double dip and make something look cool

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and be purposefully built right uh to to make sound better or whatever yeah but

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they yeah they they kind of let us lead on a lot of that stuff which was great yep uh and we butt heads with Architects

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and stuff all the time on this kind of stuff um right and sometimes we get pushed in the back

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seat on it but we still fight for it but in some cases we get more lead you know

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we have more poll and uh the client is is interested in hearing our ideas and

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it can turn into stuff like this which I think is very aesthetically pleasing and

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and it's a great room for for audio and and lighting as well right so this this

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concept here shows um shows the room shows the sidewalls some

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lighting uh it shows a screen of some sort in the center and some sort of

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fixtures on the side um and we can get into this and show you exactly what all

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that is here so let me just keep walking through this design real quick so you can see here that's a floor plan layout

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this was their existing uh Auditorium here this is all um older facility their

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their old Lobby they have a new lobby area here um here's the new Auditorium

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backstage here's a a green room rack room over here and then a couple classrooms um new

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restrooms and that's the floor plan just a couple equipment

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layouts um some electrical

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requirements yeah so yeah the it's so funny you know we're AV dudes AVL audio

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video lighting guys but we have to know a little bit about everything so we have to know about the architectural drawings

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right we have to know about mechanical electrical structural uh and so we essentially for

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people that don't know our designs we take what the architect gives us and then we modify it and then we make sure

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that all the a uh the electrical low voltage uh conduit structural mechanical

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everything works for audio video and lighting because they don't understand most Architects don't understand right

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uh most mechanical be you know you're putting up HVAC how much do you know about about the speakers and where

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they're going to be and all that stuff they have no clue right so really we have to come in as you know a jack of

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all trades essentially but king of AVL and then uh really be the the

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uh the the language yeah really be the mediator between the church AV and the

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rest of the building yeah and it it can uh it can get a little testy sometimes on projects

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it happens every project and it's uh we're not

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uh we're not prideful and pushy but we we do come in with real reasons for

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asking for certain things right and uh and it it can push buttons across the

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board in all the trades right which I kind of see I mean they're they're they are uh masters of what they do obviously

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and they know what they do and then we come in and say hey your HVAC can't really be there we need you to raise it

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3 feet or whatever because of sound or lights whatever and in their mind they're thinking it has to be there

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because of the volume and and everything and I need but we're we're taking in into consideration the church and their

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vision and everything that's going on right and yeah is it better for to have

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better sound and lights or to have your AC vents you know 3 feet lower where they want them to be so we have these

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conversations on every job with every trade yeah um HVAC electrical you know

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we don't get into oh sometimes playing with with the water sprinkler pipes and stuff like that but um what tends to

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happen is by the end of the job yeah we've probably gotten in some arguments and and and had it out with a

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few people or whatever with the builders yeah it happens yeah um It's that kind of world but at the end of the job

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almost we're always friends everyone's impressed and they see the end and they're like oh wow I then they get it

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yeah then they love us yeah then they love us because they get to get they they get to take great pictures of the

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room that we make look amazing and they go Wow Let's we can't wait to throw this on our website and make it look really good but they don't I mean they probably

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don't see stuff like that normally maybe not um yeah even if it is another church or

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something maybe they don't do heavy production or anything like that and so it's just normal stuff but yeah that is

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a that is a thing we run into all the time well we're a third party so typically the Builder is overseeing all

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the trades right but typically we work directly for the client and there's

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pluses and minuses of that I think it's all pluses for the client because we are a third party that keeps eye out for

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them right um there's no conflict of interest of us having to go to the Builder and be like hey you messed up

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the Builder doesn't typically like it because they don't have control over us they don't have control over us like the

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other trades right yeah but that's we work well with them we're team players

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absolutely but they're at the beginning when we come in first off and they see our drawings and they're just like what

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in the world is all this why you need all this power this conduit blah you don't need this much stuff you know it

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happens every single time don't understand so there's a bit of a a friction there and we have we know it's

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going to happen yeah cuz it happens every every first uh trade meeting when

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I'm on site it starts with I'm a team player yeah I'm not a finger pointer I'm

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here to help I'm here to work with you guys you're going to make mistakes we're going to make mistakes let's all figure

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it out together let's all work together because we want this to be awesome and everyone's like oh yeah of course and

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then later on then the blame game starts yeah we get we get the finger pointed us because we're the last ones in all the

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time oh man we could do an episode on oh yeah stories 100% 100% all right so I'm

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just kind of kick through this real quick um all these

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details um yeah I mean not much more to see there yeah typical design of ours

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right so uh so we did the drawings we worked with the church we kind of hear

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out their vision for the for the room right we try to take that all in we have

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uh a couple different creative meetings with them so that we kind of fully understand what they're trying to do because everyone's different yeah no

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there's no such thing as like a pack like especially for us we don't do packages right we don't do we don't even

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do like uh good better best packages right we only do the best package right meaning the best for you right the best

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for your budget the best for uh your vision whatever and there's always limitations to it but uh we that's what

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we go for yeah that is something I think that we do probably different than maybe some other uh companies is be that

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specific with the client and we don't like you said we don't have packages sitting there ready and waiting so it is

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a lot of meetings that design that you saw went through a number of Renditions

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even the room I mean the room changed a ton I can't remember how many revisions we did with the stage with the walls

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with the cloud scre if you remember at the beginning of this project they were asking what

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direction the the stage and everything should go right the whole orientation of the room and we did a couple different

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drawings flipping the room around to see what would happen yeah but if you can do if you can be more custom that way I

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mean that's that's the success in it right that's why this job looks completely different than the last one we did absolutely I mean it's totally

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different y every every client is different just like an individual right

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and so you need to take it that way you can't just assume that they want it the way that your last project went right uh

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you have to hear them out really take in their DNA we we I mean I'm saying we're saying like clients the word clients but

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we typically call them like our partners because in these projects you're deal you're hanging out with them for a

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couple years couple years and then you are working with their team so like Ben

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fa who's the worship uh pastor at this church he's also uh buddies with Luke

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that's they they grew up together together or whatever and he's awesome he was great he was great to work with he

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he was very uh uh understanding with uh

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I guess all his whole team you know because he's dealing with different opinions different um age brackets uh in

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leadership and he did a really great job coordinating that and making sure that the the central vision of the project

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worked yes so it's good to have a a contact like that with the church or the

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client um because yeah they're hearing something in one year from their church

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and from the leadership they're also hearing from the Builder and from the architect and the project manager and

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then he's kind of pushing it and then they're hearing from us then they're hearing from us and we're trying to make those changes and send him the changes

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and it's going to cost this to do this it let's cut this let's do that then he has to go back and translate everything

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again to them in words that you know terms they understand yeah um so yeah it

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was a good he was great and it can be it can be a stressful yeah role he's a great guy too

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we hung out a bit uh went to his place had Burgers uh we went out for

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dinner um he made a killer brisket we they did like a a staff we did a staff

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day and he made a killer brisket it was really good Ben Kudos on the brisket I missed out you missed out but uh he he

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was that mediator for the for this whole project and he did a great job and uh it was awesome hang hanging out with them

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um I forget where I was going with that oh we just become friends is that what I was saying yeah okay happens it

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happens um so once we had all that we did the design blah blah blah blah um

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another massive part of these projects is coordination with the trades so we had a a number of different meetings on

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site where uh you know our drawings look like electrical drawings they look like

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mechanical drawings they look like uh all these other trades right but sometimes there's little things that

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they don't understand or they're not used to doing right whether it's a layout for power for Led wall or it's um

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uh structural areas for the speaker hangs or whatever that is so we go through multiple different coordination

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meetings with them where like literally like Keegan's on site with he brings the drawing the physical drawing like you

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know walks it in drops it down here's what you guys are going to be doing here's what we're going to be doing

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here's what this means here's what that means and and uh let's all be best friends let's all make it happen yeah

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we're in constant conversation with those guys especially electrical we seem to team up with them the most on jobs y

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because they're doing all of our conduit runs and all our power obviously which is a lot for our designs yeah um but

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yeah a lot of times they're doing stuff they don't normally do it's still just power but it is you know we may do

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something special with an isolated ground or something like that so it may be a little different than what they're used to right um but yeah

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uh being on site and having those conversations we have learned is uh is

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as good as gold yep it's key yeah it's CU things get missed in the drawings and

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if you miss something after they pour the slab then it's over I mean we've learned

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those lessons the hard way you know a couple times over the past 10 11 years now right to where now these meetings

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mean so much to us then yeah we're flying people up there if it's out of state just to have a meeting with

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somebody on site um to make sure they're not missing certain very important

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electrical components or conduits or something like that right now these uh the builders for this project were

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pretty good like they were helpful uh they kept an eye out on things they understood what we were asking there

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were a couple snfo a couple things here and there but we work through it yeah uh so they were good to work with they were

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helpful not as much finger pointing at the end but we were pretty adamant about it at the front uh

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typically in these projects we're the last ones in to do the install like you know it's dust free carpet's down

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everything looks like it's done and then we come in and like hang speakers and and all that stuff and so because we're

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the last ones in if there's ever any uh time constraints on the project they're blaming us because we're the last ones

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to finish so we go right away right at the beginning of these projects we're like okay we will never hold you up you

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will never have to wait on us because we could essentially do everything after Co right after occupancy right uh but still

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sometimes they're like oh we're still waiting on Crown to do this you're like you're not waiting on Crown you're not waiting on Crown trust me we're good but

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uh yeah this this project went really well um they were very helpful yeah I I

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mean probably one of the biggest um challenges with it was the fact that it was in Indiana yeah I mean it's not like

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you can run up there you can run you know to Orlando or something for a day it's right it was a major thing to have

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and Ben helped us with that too yeah being a being a point person on site to go out and check something if we needed

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to sure um you want to look at some audio design sure so this room was actually

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kind of complex to do a design for and I went back and forth actually with L

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Acoustics um a couple couple different revisions on the design before I proposed something so we had a couple

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things that we had to keep in mind budget for the whole project so that kind of puts you in a in a world of PA

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size and quality and everything MH um I'm glad we could get L Acoustics in

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there because it's quality yeah and the sizing and the SPL that was required in the room we hit it so they're not a a

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crazy uh you know EDM rock and roll right Church obviously uh but they're

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quality and a full sound and uh we hit it so but it took a little bit the room

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is a is kind of a diamond shape a fan out shape and it was hard to figure out

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whether or not to do like uh three points or two points and so I think I have a um this is a three-point design

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that we did and this was a15s and KS 21s and they had this little uh stage thrust

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at first Y and this is actually part of our our draw drawings here was you know

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that thrust it kind of gets in the way because you know I I get it it's only

30:34

for maybe a pastor up there or maybe one worship leader but that's a microphone on stage and so now you have to move all

30:42

your speakers around it and now you have these weird dead zones that someone could come and get close to these areas

30:48

and I can't get sound there especially with the steps this is a good example of like we

30:53

were saying before how the designs change as we go through this this stuff this is just one of the rendition and

30:58

Not only was the room different but like the whole audio Design's different too I mean everything everything and that's

31:05

like that on every project we're constantly trying to make things as best as possible y working with the budget

31:11

and moving stuff around yeah so this was at a point when the stage looked like this we ended up doing a different

31:17

drawing for the stage and it was a two it was a two-tier stage but it was actually all in one so I had like two

31:22

steps yeah um but then I had a little more room for for the speakers so then

31:28

we did another one here this was a stereo uh a more stereo scenario yeah I

31:36

like that um I think this is more El acoustic based design they came back back with this um

31:45

I don't know it just didn't I I think it was a little too expensive a lot of hanging stuff yeah

31:52

that was a more pricey option I think is what and in some cases that is what

31:58

determines decisions at the end of the day it's how much it costs so yeah but

32:03

then uh I think after that stage changed we we're able to put together like a

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really good drawing here so this is what we ended up with

32:15

so I'm G look at this here so this ended up being four hangs

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of A10 I that's L acoustic A10 I um and the coverage looks really good on the

32:28

floor we had um eight eight KS 21s with a bunch of um I think we had

32:36

eight eight X4 eyes X4 eyes as well and those ended up being inside the bunkers

32:42

um but it worked out really well it worked out really well look at the the heat map

32:50

here soon as it kicks in it's uh processing processing live TV live TV

32:56

processing I don't know why it's not popping up all right never mind okay well um we

33:03

will move on from there but yeah this this end up being the design for for the pa um it had great coverage and the SPL

33:11

we need to hit uh from front to back yep so all right so then we uh you know

33:18

everything gets designed it gets the project gets a thumbs up Architects are on board trades

33:26

are on board church is on board obviously and then uh it gets to

33:31

building y they start building it they start putting in Footers and raising up

33:37

walls and uh we had a couple different trips out there at Key moments of the

33:43

project to uh do site visits which is very important yeah like we were saying

33:48

earlier I mean those it's just there's very Key Parts in the building process where you I mean

33:55

it's just important to be there and see with your own eyes so you don't miss out on something cuz there's no going back

34:02

right the heat map just there it is so yeah looks really good and it it pretty

34:08

much sounded like this if if I've gotten used to seeing things and then hearing things yeah go like oh yeah look at that

34:13

look at that heat map it sounds great but it's true all

34:20

right so during building we I mean all yeah so there's

34:26

construction I think I think other thing is uh people probably don't realize how involved we are in the construction game

34:33

I mean they see us as like the the speakers and lights guy right but we are very much involved in construction I

34:39

mean we're on sites all the time with hard hats and everything yeah like we're out on construction sites constantly there LIF and harnesses yeah no all the

34:46

time so that's kind of our world but yeah there's the building going up um like so this is when before

34:53

they're going to pour the the slab you know they're they're cutting they're trenching this in to put all this conduit down right and this conduit has

35:00

to land in a certain location where we know before you see anything right but nothing's there there's no walls so

35:06

you're just in there measuring to make sure it's in the right place cuz it has to stub up at front of house or wherever

35:12

right um or rack rooms and that kind of thing y so those are like those site visits when we go this is the stuff we

35:17

go and look at to make sure conduits actually in the in the room and it's

35:22

Landing where it's supposed to land right before they come in and pour major amounts of concrete for the l

35:29

y yeah so these are the Tilt walls up um this is actually the Rack Room area

35:37

so when you get on site at this point of the project it's it is a little hard to make sense of where things are it

35:43

doesn't look it doesn't look the same right there's like weird parts of the project where it feels like it's bigger

35:48

than you thought and then it's smaller than you thought and it's bigger than you thought again and you can try and

35:53

visualize it when you're there you know you're used to looking at the drawings and then all of a sudden you're in the room and you're visualizing okay well

35:59

yeah the rack room's over here oh that's where that hole there in the walls for that's where our conduit passrs or

36:04

whatever right all this has to be pre-cut at the uh well they can do some cutting on on site but these are all uh

36:13

pre-cast tilt walls so we were on site helping them

36:20

visualize what we need make sure that the conduits going in the right spot um

36:25

the EC and the the Builder and everything on this project once again did a great

36:32

job yeah I mean this is stuff that no one sees usually right you know yeah and

36:38

we don't post a lot of the stuff either so I think that's why this is cool to kind of show this side of it

36:44

well anything for the Graham right there's our conduit St out finally

36:50

oh yeah see they cut more Yep yeah so this was actually you see here our low

36:55

voltage and then there's also um some conduit that's going up to electrical panels but Yep this is a

37:02

little further in the project you can see now we have our our basic stage basic layout of the room um you can see

37:09

the sub bunkers there so we designed the sub bunkers to be a specific size specific uh construction so that all

37:15

that low frequency energy is moved in the right direction yeah so when they pour a stage

37:20

like that again one and done we better make sure our stuff is in the right

37:26

place floor pocket sub bunkers if we need electrical somewhere whatever yep

37:32

conduit Landing in places all that stuff has to be there there's no going back on a on a stage like that concrete is uh a

37:40

forever thing yeah or a very dusty thing after the fact so yeah that was it sweet yep

37:49

um so during that time too we are back in Florida logistically trying to figure

37:55

out to submit POS and orders for all this equipment yep trying to time it and so

38:04

that it lines up perfectly and we get it on time or hopefully we get it early you don't want a PA or a uh like a a massive

38:12

pallet of LED panel showing up during construction like that where you going to put it yeah it's going to roll out

38:19

some dudes going to grab it yeah so we're constantly watching the construction schedule um and we're watching our

38:25

estimated timelines for delivery and um that kind of thing with with

38:31

equipment and then were're trying to manage when to order these things and when they have them shipped and can they

38:38

store them somewhere there so this was kind of a hybrid we were able to ship some stuff to them because the building

38:43

was to a point where we could send them the PA and it could be safe and stored inside somewhere right uh I think the

38:51

LED wall too but a lot of the other equipment for this job we ended up shipping to us in Florida right right

38:58

and we ended up Trucking it up there um at some point so we had the equipment racks and essentially any piece of gear

39:05

that was going in an equipment rack uh shipped to our shop yeah and then we

39:10

preload those Racks y and we pre-wire anything we can anything we can do and

39:15

then any other equipment that we had down here um I think their house lights were a batch that we had from our

39:21

inventory so we had all that here pre-programmed the lights pre-programmed everything that we can here at the shop

39:28

and then we had the team uh drive it up yep in the in the in our Box Truck Yeah

39:34

they made I think they made three or four trips on the ground uh driving up and back we drove one of our our vans up

39:41

too yep yeah we flew we flew multiple times up there y but we also drove

39:47

multiple times because we were hauling stuff up there right um just another

39:52

variable in the in the whole in the whole craziness of this one yep so I think most of the the next pictures are

39:58

like of the last week or so so we were on site uh we were in the commissioning

40:03

phase so there's a couple different phases to these projects there's the design phase obviously which we talked

40:09

about a lot yeah we do the design right uh the procurement phase we just talked about that means purchasing all the

40:15

equipment and making sure that we can Source it and get it in time and have it on site at the right time or not at the

40:21

wrong time right um then there is the install phase um I don't have have too

40:27

many pictures of that but yeah I think they went up there I think they did four different

40:32

four or five different trips right going up probably a week at a time cable pull

40:37

yes is usually the first thing we do because it's easier to do these pulls when everything's open and there's just

40:42

frames up there's no uh drywall up yet right that's stuff we can do before things are clean doesn't matter right so

40:49

we try to take advantage of that so cable pole and then it was um uh rigging

40:54

and hanging items yep uh we hung the LED wall uh hung the

41:01

speakers installed floor Pockets um what else we eventually did

41:07

uh house lighting oh house lighting yep that's always a thing you know PE people

41:12

are ready to take uh temporary lighting out of the building and want to see lights on yep a lot of times we do house

41:18

lights so this comes up on a lot of projects as well where they they want the new house lights turned on now we

41:24

can't ever control them cuz they're not there's no system in place they don't just turn on like magical like all right

41:29

turn on now we could go plug them in and turn them to a manual mode and they just be on forever and you have no control of them and we do that sometimes so we did

41:36

that with this job I think that came uh that was a little uh interesting this

41:43

time because of the clouds so this project had clouds in the ceiling which cical clouds yeah which was uh a really

41:50

ended up being a really nice look yeah uh ended up being a lot of work for us on the design cuz we helped lay that out

41:56

and design that whole setup yep and then on site things were just a little bit

42:03

different with some of the mechanical stuff AC that kind of thing it always is to where we went ahead we we had to go

42:09

in and install lights there kind of early before the clouds were there I think it was too early it was because we

42:16

we had we were we we put the lights where they should go as if the clouds

42:21

were there yeah and but the clouds weren't there so we're like seeing this big open ceiling and doing measuring

42:27

everything we can we get the lights in it seems a little weird the layout

42:32

because we're not seeing the clouds as well um and then when the clouds came in

42:38

yeah there were some things a bit different with with mechanical as the as the building was built just some things

42:43

changed a little bit so the clouds ended up moving just a little bit and we ended up having to go back and like move move

42:49

tons of the house lights and try to straighten them as much as we could after the clouds got there it was a lot

42:55

of it was into more work than we thought for sure yeah that was a coordination

43:01

mishap like they uh they wanted us to install the lights before the clouds and we're like no we should do it after the

43:07

clouds cuz it's harder to move a cloud than it is to move a fixture right

43:12

they're like no we want we we need you up there you're not going to be able to get up there and we're like how much space is in between these clouds like 10

43:19

feet yeah we can get up there with a lift we can do anything we want yeah no we got to just a misunderstanding well

43:26

told you so you're right something that we did more work for us something we did

43:31

to to to please and be a team player and just do it right knowing that it's

43:37

probably going to have to have more work at the end and it did yeah but the final the final result of it uh I think it's

43:44

great um was a lot of extra work to do those clouds and have them up there and be in basically in the way of everything

43:51

right but aesthetically and that's that was important to the church to have that

43:57

they didn't just want a big black ceiling they didn't want to go that modern they wanted something to break it up yeah it was just a black and you know

44:04

their their uh their main trussing and their main uh structural beams they were pretty pronounced in the room right and

44:11

and when they were just in the room looking at the ceiling without the clouds you could see this zigzag of

44:17

large uh structural trussing that it was a thing in the room it was it was a

44:22

little off offputting yeah um so these clouds gave a visual cue

44:28

we designed them uh acoustically to to reflect the the uh um congregational

44:34

singing a little bit right um and it uh it felt it felt good in the room it felt

44:40

just live enough they they didn't want a super closed uh tight room they didn't want it to be very dead they wanted to

44:45

be alive they wanted to feel a little bit like their old room that didn't have very much uh treatment but it was I mean

44:51

their other room was smaller though too right but uh yeah they did not want like the studio ISO they wanted a little bit

44:59

more live so we decided uh we decided not to do uh it was kind of a budgetary

45:05

thing too but there was no like uh K13 spray foam on the ceiling wasn't anything like that um they were we knew

45:11

that they were going to carpet the floors which is great we knew that we're going to have the you know a good percentage of walls acoustically treated

45:18

by us MH um and so it felt it felt like I'm like okay we're going to be good to go on this and it it felt it felt great

45:25

yeah it felt really good in the room um here's a here's a couple videos of the

45:32

install so this is uh this is the A10 uh array we're up there uh aiming it

45:39

and tuning it and changing these uh these wave guides the wave guides were a

45:45

thing this this uh tuning when I showed up Luke had done a preliminary tuning

45:52

and it was almost there but there's I was just like what's going on man and we went back and forth and played with

45:58

these uh wave guides and it was like night and day I'm I'm against these wave

46:04

gues now I was going to say you ended up just leaving them wide open basically not using them the the two

46:10

main uh house center left house center right hangs we left wide open and uh

46:17

yeah I don't know there's something about those wave guyses that I wasn't really Jing with but once we open it up

46:24

uh you know and even listening to the dispersion between the the the speaker it was fine it sounded great but here's

46:30

the uh here's our PA you can see here we had the LED wall up all the lighting the

46:36

stages going um yeah so that was the room

46:41

there oh yeah okay you all you you want to get into this we should okay I mean this so this

46:51

was uh the addition of a cross which was a later in the project added added in uh

46:58

Church wanted the a cross in the room which makes sense yeah um again they that's something that was important to

47:03

them they wanted it in there right so we're like all right let's try to figure it out they wanted us to have lights in

47:09

that inside that they can control backlight it so this was all laid in the project yeah we didn't have stuff you

47:15

know ready for that we you know we figured that stuff out and whether or not we could even get con conduit it and

47:22

cable over to it I don't even know how that happened but well we had we had an extra it worked out cuz we had an extra

47:29

cable over there because that um razor wall it had another one but then it was dropped got because of this yeah and so

47:36

then essentially we use that uh that cable run for that yeah I mean either way it was going to happen but um so

47:43

this was so this was a a a huge thing uh they had some people at the church I

47:49

guess they had a cross that was originally from the church right uh I don't know 30 40 years ago or something

47:55

like that right and they had it somewhere else and so they're like we're going to re put it back in y and so we

48:03

they took it and they built a big backing and the backing that you're going to see here this big rectangle it

48:09

weighed like 400 lb yeah it was Unreal yeah it seemed like when they told us

48:16

the idea it seemed like sure yeah you know whatever put a cross up we'll put some lights in it or behind it and you

48:21

can control it and right change colors if you want that kind of thing but yeah it turned into more major ordeal and

48:28

then it it was really heavy um we ended up having to put lights in it before

48:33

right before they hung it up there and just hope that we were thinking we were thinking we'd put the lights up after it

48:39

was up that's what we thought so we could have access to it and mess around with it right but that wasn't going to work because of the way it was going to

48:45

be installed yeah and it makes sense now that I saw the cross like it was it needed to go in before yeah uh because

48:51

it wasn't just like a wood cross it it was like a a metal piece that was like hollow inside so you you could get in

48:58

and put the tape in nicely and like and and build that light that light trough behind the the cross but uh like if you

49:05

talk to Ben on this this was the the conversation for weeks and weeks and weeks and remember well well well when's

49:12

the cross going up do we have the lighting for the cross like it was a big deal for them yeah and so this was the day and listen these guys uh these

49:19

volunteers are all these people they were on site trying to figure out this cross thing for like two weeks like

49:26

every day we thought the cross was going up they'd come out they'd like survey they try and figure it out and then they

49:32

leave and then like go back to the drawing board then come back and be like or we're GNA do it this time and kept going back and forth back and forth so

49:38

kudos to them for uh I mean fighting the good fight nothing's ever this nothing's

49:43

ever as easy as it seems no matter what you do especially if you're in construction or doing any kind of project like this like nope you can't

49:51

just throw uh a 400 lb cross up especially if it's heavy yeah yeah they had to block and make sure that they had structural they we talked to the

49:57

builders talked to structural engineers make sure they was all good right it was a whole deal but this is the moment it

50:04

goes up finally we've been waiting for this thing to go up the the r the r the raising of the Cross right and uh they

50:11

went up and rigged um a a cable hoist at the ceiling because they had to lift it

50:17

and they had it strapped on and everything and I'm like I'm like I was just doing something else I was painting something in the back and I'm like oh I

50:24

hear something let's let's see what's going on and this is what I

50:29

see so here we

50:34

go and you know being a you know we rig a lot of stuff uh this started to get

50:42

really scary so it was like it was kind of slipping a bit the waist was slipping

50:47

and then you had these dudes that like run underneath and so at some point here I'm like all right this is not good this

50:53

is not good this is not good like these these kids are like right underneath it and so I think right there I stopped the

50:59

video and I like I ran over and I'm like all right everyone stop stop stop stop stop stop I'm like I think I have a

51:05

safer way of doing this um and we we tie some ropes on it to pull it back so what

51:11

happened right there is the bottom Edge caught that blocking and he was about to go up higher oh he was going to rip rip

51:17

the whole thing down right that that whole hoist was going to come down or the brace the the blocking was going to

51:23

get ripped out or the cross thing was going to get destroyed in two that's what was just about to happen right there so I was up on the lift with them

51:30

for like an hour after this uh trying to help him out um team players I'm telling

51:37

you they it was funny they had a bunch of uh Jack dudes with like cauliflower

51:43

years I'm like wrestlers wresters they're all I'm like well yall hear that they're uh we're about to raise like a

51:49

400 lb cross and just like yeah I'm in they all showed up to lift it and to move it around and they were they uh

51:56

they were helpful but very dangerous to be underneath that thing oh my goodness so yeah it went well though let me see

52:04

there it is we have it there so yeah the cable came in the back

52:09

um powered the uh the LED uh strips that we had inside the cross and that's kind

52:16

of the the final look end up looking good so we're so this is a week we're

52:21

we're programming everything as well so we are also uh uh every piece of gear doesn't

52:28

typically just work right nothing's like plug it in the wall and oh great everything's done everything has to be

52:35

uh programmed or networked so in today's AVL World we've all turned into it

52:43

Engineers it just it goes with it now so as much as I miss the Glory Days of

52:49

analog audio and just XLR in sound out uh that doesn't exist anymore yeah so we

52:55

give ourselves a lot of time at at the end of jobs for the commissioning stuff right because it is

53:00

so uh involved now it isn't just as easy as connecting analog cables and seeing

53:07

signal it's networks everywhere all talking to each other and and so it's a

53:12

lot of time so after we do all this install portion where we're hanging and doing all that junk then yeah our

53:19

commissioning guys come in and they're there I think I think they spent almost like three weeks total with the last

53:27

week probably being the heaviest right um of just commissioning and getting things turned on and working so that we

53:34

could have a rehearsal with the church for the first time ever um actually think I have the first rehearsal here

53:41

yeah we there we go uh this is this is uh the life of an AVL integrator uh This

53:48

Is Us at like I don't know 12 at night locked out of our Airbnb because the

53:53

lock the the little lock thing wouldn't open oh my gosh so we're eating eating Wendy's on the ground waiting for some

53:59

dude to show up to let us in that's our life typical typical um this was the first

54:06

rehearsal uh yeah these are these are Big nights because this was a a Saturday

54:11

I think oh this is the choir rehearsal yeah I mean this is the first so those first rehearsals are like when the

54:17

church is coming in for the first time to go up on stage platform a lot of nerves a lot of excitement nothing's

54:24

really been run through there's no band that's been playing and you've been tweaking the system this is the first time ever so most of the time

54:31

it doesn't sound that great everyone's ears are messed up nobody can hear anything right it's our job to kind of

54:37

let everybody know that's normal coordin this is a normal process it's going to be a slow night hurry up and wait yeah

54:43

everyone's going to be waiting around but we're going to get it together because if you don't have that conversation ID say probably in our

54:48

early years we maybe never had that conversation with people and those nights were probably like very stressful and frustrating for clients yeah because

54:56

they're thinking this thing doesn't even work after all this time we spent all this money and all this time and nothing works it sounds terrible the old room

55:02

sounds better um so yeah these first rehearsals are are uh very important for

55:08

us and for them and we we put a lot of effort and time into those these days because there's there's Discovery for us

55:14

as well so we see all kinds of I mean we don't have a choir uh during the

55:20

commissioning week right we don't have the choir till the choir shows up to sing right and then now they have

55:25

monitors that they they have this or that we need to get gain structure on on those on the choir mics we need to EQ it

55:30

we need to ring it out we need to there's some things we can do ahead of time but a lot of it it's with them for

55:37

the first time right and yeah telling them ahead of time is huge being like listen this is a slow one this is not a

55:44

fun like super Dynamic rehearsal this is like hit the kick quarter note for 10

55:52

minutes right and everyone else sit there while we queue it for the first time we check the system and then we also have people changing their ears and

55:59

all that stuff but this is where we get this is where we work out those Kinks and why our Launches on Sunday mornings

56:07

typically are very smooth and sound and sound good and look good and everybody feels a lot more comfortable they've had

56:13

a couple of these kind of rough rehearsals under their belt and so has the production staff and so has the

56:18

musicians and everybody right so it's it's well worth it but yeah the communication's a big thing with these

56:24

kns for sure yep actually I think I had some routing issues at the beginning of this and

56:30

there was like a ton of people around it was getting crazy that's another thing on these nights so it's the first

56:35

rehearsal and everybody's excited which you can understand CU it's the first time you're in there so musicians are

56:42

there in this case a whole choir is there as well but a lot of times like their families will be there everyone's coming to look there'll be kids running

56:49

around screaming jumping over the chairs cuz it's a new room they're playing leadership pastors Everyone's Watching

56:55

and then it's like our first time time to really send signal through these systems and see and hear right and

57:02

you're just trying to tweak and EQ and everything's like happening at once

57:07

there's a lot of pressure and a lot of times like we said it doesn't usually sound that great right at the the start

57:13

of this this is what this is for to to make it sound better to dial it in but yeah you have all these people there and

57:19

their expectations what are they thinking they're like why does it sound like this you know why is it not working or that this morning uh I was doing some

57:26

Jedi routing to try and get things going for them um because they had a couple

57:31

specifics that they wanted and I was trying different things on how we wanted to give them monitors for the choir because this is the first time the choir

57:37

was there and they had specific uh things they wanted yeah and at one point it was so wild in the room it was so

57:44

loud and I'm like my brain's in like the Matrix world that uh like it was just

57:50

not conducive people are coming up like saying things talking asking me a million different other things and I I

57:55

literally had to tell I'm like hey Ben can I get like 5 minutes in this room alone and literally and cuz they

58:00

otherwise they' just be waiting there yeah and it wasn't going to happen so they actually uh it wasn't at this point

58:06

this is after that but there's a couple people on stage at that point and so Ben's like hey let's all go meet in the back and they all met in the back and

58:12

I'm like okay here we go let's figure this out it was tough but yeah we got it

58:17

going and then they all came back in like five minutes later and we were ready to go yeah so I think uh these

58:23

nights are important though I mean absolutely you don't want to try to do this stuff first time before launch

58:29

first time everything man it's it's yeah it's going to be rough important so we had two rehearsals we had a rehearsal

58:34

with the band for the very first time and then we had a rehearsal with uh the choir and the band which is like a

58:40

luxury so you got two full rehearsals before launch which is perfect I mean if

58:45

you can make it happen we were training the whole time so this is actually after training we did a massive uh we did a

58:51

training day with staff and then we did a training night with uh uh with all

58:56

their volunteers during that training night we did uh camer up training uh video

59:03

director training calm training uh audio guys were with me I did audio this time

59:09

yeah audio guys with me I'm teaching them everything I'm teaching them about the system but then I'm also te like they're like they were really hungry to

59:16

learn they were awesome they they were like what do you think of this what do you think of that oh what's parallel compression oh what's all these things

59:22

and I was like I was able to like kind of go through with them yeah and so we set up the the board the way they liked

59:28

it uh this is the Avantis alen Heath Avantis which is you know one of my

59:34

favorite consoles for best bang for your bu console on the market right now 64x 64 sounds great great you great uh user

59:41

interface um volunteers like it

59:46

so so this is I don't know if you everyone can hear

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that but

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yeah there's just so much going on on these first nights yep emotionally and mentally and right physically and

1:00:07

everything I mean these people are in the room for the first time hearing it yep you know and you know what they

1:00:12

weren't used to it they're used to their smaller room especially the choir because the choir uh they don't have inur everyone else actually that this is

1:00:19

like a big deal for them their musicians and stuff weren't used to iners either uh were they not

1:00:25

using them before uh I think they had a hybrid thing going on but uh they I

1:00:31

remember them saying like we don't you we're not used to using in ears and all that right so they were using a new

1:00:37

monitor system for the first time right and actually we did a clang system right we

1:00:44

did a clim a clang k l a n g yeah vocal v k a l yeah I don't know where are they

1:00:52

Swedish or something I believe so something like that I think so uh which is 3D sound so 3D in your monitors so uh

1:01:01

because the Avantis only has to my recollection an iPad app for uh for

1:01:08

monitors there's a couple third party iPhone ones I think though but either way we wanted to give them a separate

1:01:15

way that their musicians could just use their phone and make and and do their mix we have a kind of a hybrid thing

1:01:21

here though we had a uh the front line was on clang and the back line was on me 500s which is their personal mixers MH

1:01:29

but the clang the clang IMS is 3D sound so they are able to move things in front

1:01:35

of them beside them above them below them behind them like everywhere and it creates a really large uh like Sonic

1:01:44

scape they can move things and it just makes more room think about Mono everything's in the center so everything

1:01:50

just like right here right stereo now you get things over here and over here and everything in between three

1:01:57

everywhere so you can put your md over here you can put an electric guitar way over here you can take your click and

1:02:03

put it way down here you can it's if your drummer's behind you put all your drums behind you and it makes it feel

1:02:08

like the drummer is right behind you yeah now I mean now with the technology to do that kind of stuff why wouldn't

1:02:14

you do that if I mean it's that's that's amazing sound to have as a musician on

1:02:20

stage if you're using in years to have that much control yep in this case

1:02:26

um it's important for us to help them through that first rehearsals and stuff because I'm sure it can be overwhelming

1:02:33

if you haven't used something like that y so that was another piece that all goes into these rehearsal nights yep

1:02:39

where we're just trying to make it the best case scenario for them and not let them get completely overwhelmed with all

1:02:44

the new stuff yep yeah he uh or uh I think it was Austin had to pre uh preset

1:02:52

a bunch of preset all the mixes yeah all the Clank stuff so bunch of routing that happens right then you have to make some

1:02:58

decisions because of uh Channel bandwidth count and everything um but

1:03:03

yeah they I think they liked it all right well what we can do is

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uh kind of do a walk through yeah you want to do a walkthrough of the of the final

1:03:17

uh the final product yeah let's do it so two years in the

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making I took this video the night before the first service so this is Saturday night I think this is at like

1:03:28

1:00 a.m. it was a late night um but no one was there so it was like a nice it was all clean because it like you know

1:03:34

they're just about to do the first service next perfect time to do this so

1:03:39

let's take a watch so here we have this is the

1:03:44

lobby um looks real nice here we did uh distributed audio so

1:03:50

in this room we have a bunch of speakers we have we have speakers uh all throughout this Lobby down the hallway

1:03:57

in the restrooms uh outside there's a bunch of uh speakers outside on the back on the

1:04:02

sides of the uh the building for parking lot speakers and everything and uh we

1:04:08

tuned it all in this room we also have a calibration mic and that calibration mic

1:04:15

uh takes in the Ambient sound of people so as that Lobby gets filled with people

1:04:22

it gets louder right and uh we said our our DSP to raise the level of the

1:04:30

speakers in that room based off that Ambient sound right so as people get louder the music gets a little louder

1:04:36

and then as they all go into the auditorium uh and no one's in there that music comes down this is a typical it's

1:04:43

a thing that happens probably to every Church in the world if they have audio in their Lobby is how loud the audio is

1:04:50

in their Lobby pre- service everyone's out there hey we can't hear the music cranking the music cuz there a lot of

1:04:57

people out there list are talking yeah and everyone goes in the building in the auditorium or the sanctuary then you have a Hospitality Guy come out hey it's

1:05:03

it's crazy loud the L it's way too loud and you have some front house engineer like oh what what yeah they're mixing the service and they're trying to and

1:05:10

then they're missing mic's like Pastor up talking like hello they turn it down and then after service everybody goes

1:05:16

out and people run back in can't hear any music you're not playing any music and so they turn it back up again it's

1:05:21

I'm sure if you've run audio or anything at at a church you know what we're talking about it's a con thing so yeah

1:05:26

this scenario this type of Technology exists so you might as well take advantage of it right um and it can help

1:05:33

you out in these in this this type of situation Crown Design Group to the rescue microphone in the ceiling gives

1:05:39

you a couple DB up and down before someone complains right just a little bit that's usually a little bit of help

1:05:45

it goes a long way oops so uh yeah so we're walking

1:05:51

through um we did distributed video to All the class classrooms um we did some video feeds to

1:06:00

their existing building uh which is going to be a phase two thing that we're going to be doing them they're going to be building out their old Auditorium

1:06:06

into a youth center so they had the they had the balloons out look at that that's a

1:06:12

finger pointing at a QSC ceiling speaker people in fact in fact that's my finger just let you

1:06:18

know um that's a key of our logo over a

1:06:24

camera shot here we go the big reveal I think this room looked awesome

1:06:31

really good I love the walls the Sawtooth walls look at that um look at

1:06:38

that it's a nice looking room yep the clouds really do help a lot you can see

1:06:43

the that vertical lighting was was our idea and something that we did with those Sawtooth walls which I think is

1:06:50

really cool yep pause it here so yeah this was this is the look man man uh

1:06:56

this isn't the look that they went for Sunday morning we embellished a little bit and like they weren't here so this is a little more Crown style but that's

1:07:03

the thing about uh these systems that we put in they're versatile you can make it look modern like this or you can just

1:07:09

make it look tradish right it's all good anything in between um but here you can

1:07:15

kind of see the final product and it looks just like the rendering I mean once once again yeah it looks just like the

1:07:21

picture yeah like the plan came together and this is what it looked like so uh let's just keep Rock and rolling

1:07:28

we we'll stop and we'll start talking about some gear as we see it um I want

1:07:33

keep doing that so yeah so we Ed some we used LED

1:07:40

tape in the tape saw tooth walls on the edge of the saw too that was a design thing and a very big coordination thing

1:07:47

during construction cuz those things had to be built the right way with a track that was the right size we had to find

1:07:53

the aluminum tracks that had to go in and get them on site during construction before everything else so they can be

1:07:59

installed and mudded in um but yeah that's just tape it goes back to

1:08:04

different uh DMX controllers and power supplies in the Rack Room yep for control and it looks great yep any color

1:08:12

you know you can see the house lights here these are all um these are the Elian color pendants color

1:08:19

pendants and they are uh full RGB W or just RGB RGB RGB they're great we put

1:08:27

these things everywhere some people uh you know house lights are not built all house lights are not built

1:08:34

equal and we've had rgbw sorry rgbw all right sweet yeah they look really good

1:08:40

we've we've installed thousands of them uh very low failure rate um in our

1:08:47

installs uh we've used other fixtures that have been nightmares we've had

1:08:52

we've put up fixtures that we that just started to die one by one by one and we had to on our dime go back and swap out

1:09:00

upgrade and swap out to a fixture that that worked but that's that's because a manufacturer

1:09:06

said this this will work and then it didn't and then who's to blame us so we made it

1:09:14

happen so we can also see the acoustical paneling uh we did all that designed it

1:09:19

made sure it was the right percentage for the room um feeling of the room so here's front of house and this is kind

1:09:26

of a cool feature um this is we put a little touch screen on the side of their

1:09:31

front of house so you know typically churches they have other events outside

1:09:37

of Sunday right uh they'll have a prayer meeting or they'll have in this case this church does a lot of baptisms on

1:09:42

the Fly and instead of having to source and

1:09:48

staff a an audio engineer a lighting operator a video dude uh someone that

1:09:53

can knows how to turn on all the systems uh we have automated and programmed a

1:09:59

touchscreen to give them simple control of these elements so that essentially a

1:10:05

volunteer could walk in hit a couple buttons here grab a microphone and do

1:10:11

whatever they want right they've got box music they've got Spotify here they've got two microphones that that go

1:10:18

directly to the PA through our processor not through a console they don't have to turn on the audio console they don't

1:10:24

have to turn on the the lighting console they don't have to turn on any switcher they don't have to do anything they just

1:10:31

have to show up click a button here and uh they can control the room so this in

1:10:37

this case they don't even have to go up onto front of house right yeah this is

1:10:42

great that's a great um feature there's a lot of work in that in the back end of

1:10:48

that yeah a lot of programing that happen a lot of programming it just seems like but we do get that a lot now

1:10:55

hey I just want to be able to push a button and turn stuff on makes sense because that you can do that in your houses and your cars and whatever now so

1:11:03

they want those features this is this is also a uh a benefit of everything being

1:11:09

networked and then being able to utilize our DSP in this case it's a CIS yeah we

1:11:14

use that to do a bunch of Automation and control because all the audio is networked now it's in Dante so you just

1:11:21

grab it off a Dante controller and throw it in there and then do a quick EQ and compression and uh

1:11:29

they'll have it and it sounds great yeah so so this made it super easy they don't

1:11:34

even have to go up to front house they just go to the side of it click click click all right we could doing a little prayer meeting oh we're doing a quick

1:11:39

baptism or whatever yeah very hard for a volunteer to screw that up too so they're not going to come up and start twisting knobs and change all your

1:11:46

settings on your consoles or mess up your routing or whatever we actually have a lock screen on this too so we can

1:11:52

lock it down and then you could have a password just for specific uh right uh

1:11:57

volunteers or whatever so yeah you can see that so here's a front house

1:12:07

area uh yeah right here you can see those are the two mics so yeah so those

1:12:13

are the two mics that they just have living up there at all times and they can grab it and bring it up on that screen yeah we've got a little uh uh

1:12:21

front house camera um as we'll see we we built a production suite and it was a

1:12:26

little different for them they weren't used to that they they were doing their switching somewhere else not in the main room but most of their uh production

1:12:32

team was in the in at front of house in the main room right so right for this

1:12:38

project we broke that up right we have a couple positions at front of house and then we have a couple positions in a

1:12:44

production Suite that you'll see that uh that that's where they live yeah with

1:12:50

that now you have a disconnected team yeah you got to have calm so that they can communicate and these room cameras

1:12:56

help them to be able to see oh is any where's the audio engineer and they look oh he's at front of house right now good I can I can quickly call

1:13:04

him so that's what that is and they liked it in that position um so here

1:13:10

this is a position um for a producer once again this is this was a new position for them they didn't have a

1:13:15

producer right and a service producer is someone that is the eyes and ears of a service so they are the ones that uh are

1:13:23

making the final calls they're typically just in taking it all in and making sure that the program the service is going

1:13:29

according to plan um but this is their position where they can have a multiview

1:13:35

and look at cameras look at uh different things popping up preview program and

1:13:40

make sure that everything's going according to plan yeah it's a good area of growth for them that producer

1:13:46

position is a good area to grow in for for anybody the more complex that production comes right the more key it

1:13:52

is to have that hierarchy someone needs to have have an idea of what's going on and what's going to happen 5 minutes from now and be ready and queuing

1:13:59

everybody and being on calm hey this is coming up don't forget we're doing this transition yeah I mean and there's

1:14:05

probably lots of churches that don't do that um it would be beneficial if they did even on smaller scale you know yeah

1:14:12

even for uh Church leadership like a pastor or something for them to have one person that they have to talk to and it

1:14:18

could be a trusted person where they don't have to like sugarcoat things you know like the pastor usually has to be like oh thank you so much helping but

1:14:25

can you do this for me right it's good to have a really quick concise line of

1:14:30

communication to a producer that understands your heart as a pastor and understands the vision but also

1:14:37

understands that like Communication in live production has to happen quick and it has to happen like uh very very

1:14:44

concisely so like a real quick message over calm hey it's too loud right not

1:14:50

hey you're doing such a great job at sound today I'm so thankful but hey can you turn it down just a smidge your

1:14:56

produ your producer can do that yeah let the pastor be like hey it's a little too loud or hey there's something going on hey I'm I'm about to go up on stage hey

1:15:03

I want this in my notes real quick then that communication hierarchy starts happening on Comm yeah especially if

1:15:10

they make a call on the Fly that's what live production is man so great to have somebody there yeah I'll show you this

1:15:16

too here we put a we put a little button on the back of this display and we uh we

1:15:22

have a KVM that uh goes to their Graphics machine so they have two locations that

1:15:29

they can do their propresenter position so if for some reason they didn't want

1:15:35

to have their Graphics operator in production Suite they could just like a smaller little uh smaller service smaller

1:15:43

whatever they could be out here and just do it here with the front house people they don't have to be in the back so

1:15:49

that's a little that was a little button that goes in between multiv View and um and the Graphics machine which is

1:15:56

propresenter renewed Vision so you can see that KVM there's our Comm so that's this is actually

1:16:02

front a housec so you can see here we have a beacon and a handset and then a

1:16:08

Greeno panel for uh for the front house engineer so if you want to talk to him

1:16:14

uh tell him H how amazing his mix is and how you know no one's complaining about how loud it is and how precise and

1:16:21

perfect it is uh you can you can uh call them give him a ring give him a ring and

1:16:26

this goes you know bat phone red you pick up the phone and hello oh thank you

1:16:32

so much for telling me how great my mix is you didn't have to you didn't have to call me all this way and tell me that I

1:16:38

you know I'm only here to serve I don't think you ever hear that on call nope never so that's uh that's that

1:16:45

there then we have the advantis uh we put a front of house computer here uh so

1:16:50

this is a computer that's essentially just for uh the engineer here they're running Spotify right now um but uh

1:16:58

typically we'd have smart right uh room analization software we didn't do it on this project but we'd have an we'd have

1:17:04

a calibration mic they'd be able to view and look at frequencies in the room um and do other things everything's

1:17:11

networked once again so this connects to their production Network we set up the we set up like multiple different

1:17:16

networks for these projects production networks worship for worship ssids uh

1:17:22

Dante sacn all these different y uh protocols over the same switches and having a computer that can

1:17:29

touch and connect all them is very important

1:17:35

yeah there's a iPad for him for them to run it so this one more Cal for lighting

1:17:41

here we go the lighting stuff yeah we use uh Jan's Vista I think

1:17:47

they just call it Vista now Vista minus the Jans but great software based lighting

1:17:56

program uh very visual so you can kind of see all your fixtures easily you can just grab and select things you want to

1:18:02

do and make cues pretty simple setup um it can be as complicated as you want it

1:18:07

to be if you want to get complicated you can do it you can add consoles with it and everything controllers or you can

1:18:13

just do a setup like this where it's just a software based on a computer right um and you're able to obviously

1:18:19

make cues ahead of time and and label them very easily very visual like I said for a volunteer to come in and see a

1:18:26

service kind of mapped out with certain things you know marked and easily play

1:18:32

through uh cues that you built during the week right um so yeah it's it's it's

1:18:38

great for volunteers because it is a simple program to use and set up um but you can be a pro level as well and get

1:18:45

absolutely nuts with it if you wanted to yep but that's what we put in here that controls all their lighting so they have

1:18:50

control of everything with this they went from like a little thing with like four four four faders it's like house

1:18:57

lights on down stage lights on down track lighting to this where they have

1:19:03

control of every single light in the room individually which was overwhelming for them bet so what we did was uh Matt

1:19:10

stuff once again lighting Guru that he is set up a bunch of really great uh

1:19:16

cues right that would lend itself to any service and so he had like I don't know

1:19:22

certain songs slow songs fast songs eight cues that you know video cues you

1:19:27

know that kind of stuff cuz they had a lighting operator for the first time they never had a lighting operator they had someone just kind of reach over do

1:19:33

that so this is a whole new thing with all that control comes a little bit more complexity but we tried to simplify it

1:19:39

and just give them cues that'll work for until they want to do more they can do more later right or they just keep doing

1:19:45

this and bring up a fader every once in a while and right click next que next queue next this gives you all that control and it's not uh that's it's an

1:19:52

inexpensive way of doing it especially with just the software and computer setup so um not a lot of money in but

1:19:59

you have a lot of control and abilities you can grow into it get crazy with it if you want yep and then we have uh oh

1:20:05

this is our chaos yep so this is playing video but it's sending the video out to

1:20:11

these pixel bars in the background Yep this way we could have the same

1:20:16

background image that they're say using on the LED wall right it's going to

1:20:21

these pixel strips that are uh pixel mapped right so you at least get the colors and that same kind of vibe it

1:20:27

looks like it almost spreads out from the screen yeah it's not like you're going to see actual video image on those

1:20:33

pixels cuz they're big pixels right but still it does look like a more like a

1:20:38

splash out of the stage you off to the sides to fill those voids those black voids and that and that's controlled by

1:20:45

the lighting console so it's almost like a it's like a having a a dimmer Bank yep you just patch in some dimmers on on

1:20:52

your lighting controller and then you can control those fat uh via dimming circuit basically from

1:20:58

from your light controller you can control those archaos fixtures and you can uh build it into your

1:21:04

cues we had three cameras in the room uh that that was camera three right here it's on the side they built this like

1:21:11

pretty wild um camera platform platform

1:21:18

y coming around there's a room camera and then here are camera one and two uh

1:21:23

so these are their their main uh Center tight and Center wide uh you have the model on this is that on there yep I'll

1:21:30

just head it up so this is Black Magic Camera it's uh the

1:21:36

6K Studio camera is it the studio broadcast what is it

1:21:41

um sorry it's all good this was a a camera came out about a year ago I think

1:21:47

uh it's their new upgraded uh sensor size for their their Studio camera I

1:21:53

think um and uh Studio camera 6K Pro Studio

1:21:59

camera 6K Pro so very affordable Studio camera uh that that um that works with

1:22:08

the lenses that we wanted to use so we use these Canon lenses I think we had a 70 to 200 is that what it is and then 18

1:22:15

to 18 to 80s and 70 to 200 see the zip tie see that

1:22:23

yeah horrible right this uh this y cable this Ian y cable

1:22:29

would not work all three cameras and we just we tried to save them a little bit of money on the IAM version than the

1:22:35

zudo version these little cables like like 500 bucks the other one's like 900

1:22:40

bucks yeah well these did not seat correctly so we have the zakos coming out there that'll seat correctly but

1:22:46

that's why I had to zip tie but I cut the end off so see I'm I'm clean it's clean yep so yeah we had we had three

1:22:54

cameras um three main manned cameras on tripods

1:22:59

camera 123 which was like a center tight Center wide and a side wide and then we

1:23:04

had a couple cameras on stage which are just those the same small Ada cameras just we had one on the keyboard and one

1:23:11

on in the drums and we had one over the baptismal tank

1:23:16

yep so here are the the camera locations Uh custom

1:23:24

a custom uh panel for Io so all the camera stuff just hits there connects in

1:23:31

network comom everything else um tally and all that information is over the

1:23:37

STI so it has Focus assist so you know

1:23:43

it was a whole thing they this is all brand new stuff for them they had to learn how to use these cameras and they did a great job yeah yeah all right so

1:23:50

now we're going into the production Suite so this is right behind front of house and those a a perfect little you know turn there by me and my gimbal um

1:23:58

but yeah let's look at this here so this is this is their production Suite we

1:24:04

have a bunch of multiview C uh displays with uh different things on it they've

1:24:09

got some speakers for listening to uh the system listening to whatever's going

1:24:14

through front the house or even uh this mix here this uh broadcast

1:24:19

mix but um but yeah this was a whole new thing so they had more positions in here

1:24:25

this is where they're let's go through here actually let me see all the positions I think I kind of do a slow

1:24:31

walk here yeah of course I did there we go all right so there's some Comm packs so this this is the green go we used

1:24:38

Greeno uh Comm over IP it's our go-to Comm over IP solution that means that the Comm is

1:24:44

just over a network you need to add more hit on the network configure it put it in whatever groups you want and call it

1:24:51

a day yeah that was a game changer I mean two wire four wire it wasn't that

1:24:56

long ago when it was like two wire four wire right and some giant kind of brain Matrix thing if you wanted more channels

1:25:03

it was nuts right now it's all Network stuff and you can have I forget how many channels you can have on this thing a lot yeah a lot here was uh camera

1:25:12

control so this is uh this is for shading it's for Iris control of the

1:25:17

cameras it's pretty easy with black magic stuff because it's all like their own little system right so this

1:25:23

communicate goes over SDI to the Camera return and then they can control the iris which is pretty much all they have

1:25:29

to do here yeah you don't want them doing much more than that right uh someone ruined a screen by the way we

1:25:37

got to get an RMA it was perfectly fine and then after rehearsal night after the first rehearsal night there's like a a

1:25:42

big thumb print thing here and it the screen was broken not a touchs screen

1:25:48

apparently they touched very hard they very touch screened it and it's not a touchcreen

1:25:57

uh more C battery packs for the wireless stuff here's our video switcher so this

1:26:03

is just a controller for their uh ATM constellation so their ATM constellation

1:26:08

black magic product it's pretty basic yeah uh the constellation is nice

1:26:14

because it actually has scaling in it so like anything you send it typically everything has to be the same resolution

1:26:19

if you're running 1080i 5994 whatever everything everything has to be it or else you don't even see it yeah with

1:26:25

constellation now it it does scaling on the input so you can kind of send it anything it's still I think it's still

1:26:31

probably good to keep all your standards the same I'm sure there's some uh benefit of that but uh this was

1:26:38

a new thing too so now they had you know they used an A10 before but not a panel and we had a couple different things

1:26:44

here they had multiple different outputs that they had to deal with so they had a key and a fill they had a program they

1:26:51

had a Lobby they had the LED wall like they had all these different layers that they had to we had to train them on and

1:26:58

like set them set up right so me1 went to broadcast for their online for their

1:27:04

online uh service yeah and then me2 was just to their LED wall and they wanted

1:27:11

to do like picture and pictures and all that stuff so here's a uh representer

1:27:17

Graphics so this is the same Graphics machine that you just saw at front a house it's just over a KVM so actually

1:27:22

this computer's in a rack in the back and they're controlling it from here more

1:27:28

calm so here's our online position um they don't have the biggest

1:27:33

online audience it it wasn't as big a priority as some of our other projects

1:27:38

it you know that's why it's in the typically we'd build like a completely separate room for uh audio for broadcast

1:27:44

audio we' do a control room that's looks like a like a studio control room it's

1:27:50

built acoustically and everything they weren't as they didn't want to they didn't need it

1:27:56

they felt like they we need a place where we can quickly monitor it but we'll have a volunteer usually on headphones and they do a mix and and

1:28:03

we're good to go and that makes sense for them yep that's where they are so so this is the sq6 that they we had we had

1:28:09

sold them like a couple years ago for their other room yeah so then we now reutilized it in this room with a Dante

1:28:15

card um couple speakers set it up we I set this thing up to look exactly like

1:28:21

the front house console so you could have you know they're different it's a different console but the layout is

1:28:27

almost exactly the same yeah so they like

1:28:33

that so you can see here and that was my gimbal time couldn't figure out a gimbal

1:28:40

uh let me keep going here so yeah so here are some of the cameras you

1:28:46

can see here we have the keys shot we got the baptism shot um they put a big

1:28:52

chunk of wood over there for safety a drum shot um let me see here media players

1:29:00

stage display a room camera thing um yeah

1:29:06

nice yeah it was really really I mean you could you could just see everything so this is their this is their touch uh

1:29:13

their touch screen in there so they have control over their speakers in the room

1:29:19

volume but they can also bring up different sources so they could bring up and they could just decide what they want to listen to so if they want to

1:29:25

listen to the mix in the room that sk6 they can bring it up here if they want to listen to the front of house mix they

1:29:30

listen in here or if they just want to listen whatever we've made some buttons for

1:29:35

automating the source to send to online so you know typically you might not you

1:29:41

might be down an engineer and not have someone in this room right so what do you do for online right well this button

1:29:48

here will just put front of house online yeah that's nice

1:29:55

so cus once again touchcreen bunch of custom programming um we looked at that

1:30:03

again this gimbal thing was killing me but yeah let's move into the room let's

1:30:09

talk about the room so I'm GNA walk down

1:30:17

here so we had uh some front light pipes we had two front light pipes one closer

1:30:22

one further back uh for different angles uh we put a bunch of movers up there too that that's what's doing those uh the

1:30:29

Goos on the sidewalls which was pretty cool they didn't want to give her with that here are the speakers as you can

1:30:35

see so this is the house left house center left house center right house right A10

1:30:45

configuration um something here too we did I forgot to say we we did Led tape

1:30:52

along the edge of their they're uh sub funkers too along the edge of the stage right same same kind

1:30:58

of vibe as the walls yeah um but up under underneath again another big coordination thing with making sure that

1:31:04

was in place and yeah it looked really good yeah it looks great we called out for this um this uh what's the word like

1:31:14

a great type finish it's a speaker Grill it's like a grill it's like a massive speaker Grill so all the all the air

1:31:21

from the subs and from the uh front fills uh you know move freely through that

1:31:28

perforated metal yeah sometimes they don't really

1:31:33

care they and they just look at the front of the speakers or something like that yeah they had it open to to the

1:31:38

world I I like showing them off I like speakers New Hope wanted more of a finished look so yeah we went with that

1:31:46

Vibe yeah so they have RGB control of all the sidelights the cross

1:31:52

there um here's our LED wall it's another abson wall

1:31:57

abson shout out smile once again uh what yeah what panel was this do you know

1:32:03

this was a 3.9 a 3.9 yep and it's so that's a that's a bigger pixel pitch um

1:32:09

than our last project we did um but because of the size and the distance

1:32:14

from the seating um and uh meeting budgets it was it was

1:32:22

fine it worked it worked great yeah looks good in the room it's a good size we went back and forth with them a lot

1:32:27

on projectors versus LED wall they were afraid of LED wall because of all the uh

1:32:32

mega church connotations right because of like videos like our last one and we did uh we did other LED wall designs for

1:32:39

this room with other pieces other screens not just a center right um but I

1:32:46

yeah I think it was just a bit too much for them um and so they just went down to a single screen this is the only way

1:32:53

this was going to work work because their choir is right in front of that yeah and their choir heavy so try

1:32:59

shooting a projector at them and try lighting a choir with a projector screen behind you right it wasn't going to happen no so um so this this ended up

1:33:09

being the only way to do it yeah and then on those sides we ended up using those pixel bars right to just

1:33:16

fill those voids

1:33:22

right yeah up the stairs here Ben you want to check your camera

1:33:29

there real quick just all right we're back technical difficulty number one

1:33:35

achieved complete okay so we're backstage here and what we have here is a multiv view backstage is really

1:33:41

helpful for uh teams waiting to come up on platform uh they can see here they

1:33:46

can see a countdown all that stuff so that's backstage they have kind of like a little tool tool center bunch of extra

1:33:53

cable s and all that jazz back here yeah you don't have to peek around the curtain right that's that's worth the TV

1:34:01

yep so this is actually uh a two two purpose room here we have this is this

1:34:08

is all that low voltage lighting in that room that's all all that low that led

1:34:13

tape walls and under the stage power supplies and drivers for it all Y and it

1:34:18

looks like you know if you don't know what you're looking at it looks like a nightmare but

1:34:24

looks good looks really good yeah Matt stuff and the team but it's also a ISO

1:34:30

Booth so we have here in here uh a couple guitar amps mhm uh with reamp uh

1:34:36

dis and all that stuff um and we have a custom panel in here you're going to see so what we did

1:34:44

was uh what we did was we sent uh we set up

1:34:50

a a couple patch Bays so they have on stage they have floor pockets and each floor

1:34:56

pocket we populate it with a bunch of different IO so we put uh XLR inputs and

1:35:01

outputs we put video SDI inputs and outputs we put network connections all

1:35:07

these things and and lighting sacn DMX all this stuff in these floor Pockets

1:35:13

they're the connections to the brain in the rack room I know you know this but I'm telling all people uh so we had a we

1:35:19

had a patch Bay for all those inputs on stage to go back stage and then it went

1:35:25

from there to this ISO Booth send yep where we then reamped the guitar signal

1:35:32

to the amp and then we mic uh we we mik the amps here yeah so we had uh two mics on each

1:35:39

amp um this is a nice Morgan amp it sounded good so we have um we have a 57

1:35:46

and I think that's is it A1 do you have the list in front of you

1:35:52

uh that's the 181 I believe oh yeah we provided a lot of that stuff for them

1:35:58

this time yeah they bought new mics which is nice yeah we did all the back uh the backline stuff so yeah 181 yep so

1:36:06

there's are 181s we did all the drum mics and everything mhm so now we're going to go

1:36:12

backstage um through a dark abyss apparently so we have a couple lights back there it was in like program mode

1:36:19

but you can turn it up so back here is actually our uh this is our green room

1:36:24

so this is a little green room for the for the choir and for the worship team to hang out in between uh services or

1:36:29

before service so they have a piano there that they can kind of play music

1:36:35

that that goes through our system um some speakers to listen to uh the

1:36:40

program a multiview so that they can kind of know what's going on they can choose different uh video to go here so

1:36:46

we sent we set them up with the touch screen again um it's over here actually I think

1:36:52

I'll show it there's a custom panel with some IO and

1:36:57

then there's some Comm so they can they can call hey yall are up in keq Keys Q

1:37:04

get up there what are you doing they all drop their coffee oh no run they should not be late to anything if they have a

1:37:09

video screen that's true I mean if they're standing there watching I mean you well you know they're socializing

1:37:15

you're cutting out your excuses once you have that screen there right you can watch the service and hear the service y

1:37:20

so here they have different um things to look at on the TV and then they have different audio sources which is very

1:37:26

helpful for them they can just bring it up do whatever they want there right there it is looking nice uh Luke

1:37:34

did some amazing programming for this uh he's he's the commissioning Guru he made

1:37:40

it happen so in here is the uh is the uh Rack Room in electrical

1:37:47

room oh there we go camera shot nice there we go I don't know if you do that on purpose but it worked uh I do

1:37:53

everything on purpose I never do anything by accident so these are the equipment racks uh this is the brain of

1:38:02

it all so you can see here we have uh there's our

1:38:07

cusis um that's a Dante unit for uh the Comm the Greeno so we could get program

1:38:13

in and out or like audio in and out of com so that if they had like a music

1:38:19

director or click track like your lighting op could be listening to that at the same time that the bands listening to it yeah so like

1:38:24

everything's on right microphones you know what microphone those just ql XDS right ql

1:38:31

XDS um that's clang that's the monitor system we talked about earlier yep 3D monitoring system yep in your monitor

1:38:39

Wireless monitors under there yep looks all nice and

1:38:45

clean uh yeah Q server that's our architectural um control for lighting y

1:38:52

so that's running scenes means when essentially in this room you can walk in without lighting console on and we have

1:38:59

our products our LS1 our Crown design LS1 right uh uh light switch light

1:39:05

switch push button in different places in the room and they can just turn on on and off a scene and we create that

1:39:12

custom scene right but then when the lighting console turns on it grabs control of all the lighting and then now

1:39:18

those switches don't work so we we have a product here called the ms1 which is our main station for the lighting switch

1:39:25

and those come here and then they talk to our uh architectural controller which is a must have must have

1:39:31

yep um there's a node here's our patch Baye this is just XLR patch Baye um to

1:39:39

get stage inputs and then we have our dt1 168 so these are Dante enabled uh

1:39:46

digital snakes yeah which are like one of my favorite new things over the last couple years yeah that's great they're

1:39:52

da but you control the preamps by the console so I think it's called

1:39:58

DDR something or other some some technical

1:40:05

term um we have the amps acoustic amps acoustic amps so we use this uh new one

1:40:11

the LA 716i so it is a 16 channel that's nuts

1:40:16

amp yeah and that those are uh powering every speaker in the air right so all

1:40:23

yeah all what is it 48 all 16 16 speakers so every single one of those

1:40:29

channels on that amp is powering one of those main PA that's cool

1:40:35

yep uh ups at the bottom I forget if I did the other side

1:40:41

very well I forget if I got more shots of the side

1:40:46

but um yeah Crown switch series ms1 coming to a store near you soon

1:40:54

love it oh I got some back back shots they put a UPS uh system in there is way bigger than anyone i' ever told us yeah

1:41:02

they say it was going to be on the wall it's like on the floor there a little behind the rack you

1:41:08

know real clean everything on on lace bars nicely nicely organized this

1:41:16

stuff's that's the stuff that takes time all those looms and everything yeah we we have we call it a rack troll roll

1:41:22

Austin Austin seford our resident rroll cuz he lives back there for if we're on

1:41:27

an install we might not see him for days he's just in this little hole in the dark with a light on like a cave yep and

1:41:34

he became known as the rack troll yep it's important though on this side we have our networks so we have um an inest

1:41:43

for like a bunch of wireless access points and that's that was given to us we had to coordinate with their it dude

1:41:49

right on that so they wanted specific things for them uh

1:41:55

specific whatever it was a lot of coordination another level of coordination yeah their it team which

1:42:02

was fine so it worked out yep so that's their stuff and then we have our Network switches you can see all of our patch

1:42:10

cables they're all different colors and they all those colors all notate what VLAN we're using yes so I think red is

1:42:17

audio yellow is lighting green is calm blue is just uh production nice

1:42:24

so we programmed all those vlans that was meu for their for their me

1:42:31

500s um down here you can see that's their uh Graphics

1:42:37

computer bunch of uh black magic stuff all in one place that stuff always looks good racking it together right though it

1:42:44

does get hot um bunch of embeds this embeds the switcher itself and then a router send

1:42:52

things around we did a video uh SDI patch Bay and that was so that uh all

1:42:58

those floor Pockets could land somewhere and and not be used because you're not going to use all those floor pocket Ines

1:43:05

but you can always swap things around and and send it um and then down here you've got LED

1:43:13

wall processor and some amps for distributed audio once again that's feeding uh speakers in the lobby and

1:43:21

outside Y and then our ser server or crown care server so yeah I think that's it I think

1:43:29

that's the walkthrough man nice y a cool project yeah I've got some

1:43:36

pictures of launch you want to see them yeah so this is the this is

1:43:42

uh first service stuff let's take a

1:43:47

look so this packed house it was packed yeah they did two services that's the

1:43:53

commission team we're on site super tired uh they both did an awesome job

1:43:59

though both Luke and awesome the whole team did great yep uh everyone the install crew so we had multiple people

1:44:07

up there at multiple different times they didn't amazing job um it's kind of

1:44:12

tough because the install guys are like Keegan like the designing they don't really get to see the final product it's

1:44:17

like the commissioning team especially at a out a state like that a state yeah yeah sometimes we have more in Florida we try to say hey everybody come to open

1:44:24

yeah come let's let's go see that's important to see the final thing and right see everybody in there and see it actually working yeah but this was after

1:44:31

couple weeks of late nights um making it happen into first service so yeah this

1:44:37

was one of the first Services you can see uh the lighting and everything is a little is much more tamed than our like

1:44:43

pink blue but it shows what you can do I mean yeah a lot of times you people don't understand they get an rgbw light

1:44:50

or whatever and they think it's you just have the color options or whatever but there it is you know you can you can

1:44:57

make it look completely normal if you want and then go crazy with it whenever you want to Yep this is a front of house crew this

1:45:04

so these are all uh volunteers that we we're training all week um I mean can

1:45:10

you guess who the front of house engineer is I see him he was awesome he was great they have a look they have a

1:45:16

look AIO guys have a look a lot of times longer the beard uh the better the ear especially if especially if they've been

1:45:22

in the game for a long time they start looking the same yeah you can tell kind of molds them into a front

1:45:27

house engineer uh but yeah he he did a great job um he was really uh open we

1:45:34

had we had probably like four Engineers out um that that took the training and went through and he's running service

1:45:40

and he did a great job nice so yeah uh oh Carol wheat is on the left there she

1:45:45

drove Luke hero Luke wheat had to go to a wedding that weekend the day before and

1:45:52

so that night he drove from Virginia here all night to get here at like 400

1:45:58

a.m. to be here for a couple hours that's the crown that's the crown Design Group St uh standard right there

1:46:06

so um so here's the engineer all what am I saying here's a production Suite so

1:46:11

all volunteers no paid production staff so they're running this show all on the

1:46:16

own camera Ops video directors Engineers on shading

1:46:23

uh online mix everything that's great and you're going to need it I mean

1:46:29

obviously you're not going to have a staff of 12 people or whatever right you know just to run this stuff so and it's

1:46:35

all new so that's fresh and exciting probably for them they've been watching this building get built for a year and a

1:46:41

half right and now you know everyone's pumped and and and ready to volunteer and learn yep

1:46:49

so yep but yeah they're in a production suite for the first time too yep you know they're used to be in the room a

1:46:55

lot of new stuff a lot of new systems a lot of new positions yep but

1:47:01

they got they got we dialed in an online mix on the SQ sounded good yeah um so

1:47:07

it's it's rocking and rolling you know I try and tell them too I said this is the worst it should sound like for a first

1:47:13

run through like getting this we're really good at setting up a console for

1:47:19

the first time because we do it so often like how every every time we're in front of a cons pretty much it's like getting

1:47:24

signal through for the first time right setting it up doing eqs real quick and

1:47:30

uh we can get it to a really good Baseline but then we tell our these Engineers like listen you got to keep

1:47:35

tweaking you got to keep manipulating you got to keep moving forward yeah and we save all these files because then they get desk drift where yeah someone

1:47:43

Jacks something up real bad like oh yeah we need to do this it's like no you don't but they can always go back in a

1:47:48

digital file pull it up and they'll have start with the Baseline did yeah but yeah it is important to grow every week

1:47:56

you're you're trying to get a little better each time on every position right

1:48:01

never ends sound never ends production never ends you got to keep you got to keep uh honing your skills yeah it's a

1:48:07

it's an art so yeah they did a great job they're

1:48:12

all eager to learn they're all using like the new con uh hierarchy of of uh

1:48:18

communication that we taught them so hanging out hanging out in the

1:48:23

Green Room Post Service this is the first they had a a baptism I got here it's kind of cool

1:48:30

some parents uh baptizing a kid um but we did uh we did a picture in picture on

1:48:37

the LED wall for them they wanted that and we have some mics you can actually see it here we have a couple little

1:48:43

mics um mounted right by the Baptist tree yeah again another yeah it looks

1:48:51

good yeah you know you don't see a lot of baptistries built in a church building

1:48:58

anymore yeah where taking them out a lot of times they're coming out or and churches have baptism Services where

1:49:04

they'll set up like a temporary baptistry or whatever but this new hope you know wanted to have an actual

1:49:10

baptistry in their building right so it was another another kind of cool feature

1:49:15

in this room that that we don't do a lot of but we had to have lighting for it right we had to have mics there and

1:49:22

camera shots and everything yep yeah it was kind of a cool thing to see like that was at the end of the the

1:49:28

services and uh you know kind of brought it all together like oh what is this all about you know families it's about uh

1:49:36

you know Faith yeah and you got to see it all in one day it's kind of cool no it's great and really cool really cool

1:49:44

job yeah really cool looking room I think they're they have a ton to learn

1:49:50

and to grow into like we talked about so many systems they're set up in a way where they can

1:49:56

have service without us you know they're on their own next week already and they're going their volunteers will be there and the all the systems will be in

1:50:02

place and they can have their service and they'll grow with it and tweak and tweak and tweak and get better and better yep that's that's the name of the

1:50:09

game with production and these things so this this project went as about as good

1:50:14

as it can go I mean that those services at Sunday morning not one little glitch

1:50:20

which is you know technology it happens yeah but nothing happened like it was amazing like I I was just waiting for

1:50:26

something bad to happen right and the pastor came up and he's like if there was a snafu I didn't see it I'm like I

1:50:32

don't think there was Everything went perfect it went really well everyone loved it everyone was just saying how

1:50:37

clear it sounded um how how it looked it looked amazing felt like home felt uh it felt

1:50:46

like an extension of their family like an extension of their other room but like modernized yeah completed the job

1:50:53

really well y from the very beginning I mean at the beginning of the podcast

1:50:59

we're going through the design from the very I mean that's just drawings on paper right you know and then all that

1:51:04

coordination through construction getting our hands on all this equipment getting installed right

1:51:11

and then all that time we spent on the commissioning side of things putting extra time in there and spending the

1:51:16

extra time on the rehearsals you know to really make sure everybody's comfortable and feels good I mean that's a lot of

1:51:22

extra time up front a lot of e extra effort up front right but then that you

1:51:27

see the result of it at the end where everything plays out so well on their opening day and everybody feels great

1:51:33

about it and feels good even though it's all new and tons of system tons of new systems and things to learn but

1:51:39

everybody feels comfortable enough to to take it on and and go for it yep turned

1:51:44

out awesome so big thanks to all the trades that put in time right all the

1:51:51

builders uh the church staff for working with us for trusting us trusting us with

1:51:56

their home with their Church home you know it's it's it's a lot yeah to you know Outsource so much to some crazy

1:52:04

company from Florida I know but uh yeah uh big thanks to to

1:52:10

everyone that helped on that project and our team our team killed it they're the best um everyone that worked on that uh

1:52:18

David Keegan cleto Luke Austin

1:52:24

Matt keone say Keegan Tyrone Tyrone buddy shout out Tyrone dude local guy

1:52:31

helped us out a lot of times on local dude helped us he was a great helper he's a former engineer for GM the nicest

1:52:38

dude in the world Tyrone his skin complexion is uh lighter than you'd

1:52:44

think but he's uh I loved him man he was so helpful he uh um he was just a great

1:52:51

support on site so Tyrone I I met with him in between Services just to tell him thanks but thanks again buddy uh you did

1:52:57

a great job the whole team Ben thanks again for for uh having us uh you know

1:53:02

put this together for you yeah takes everybody takes all these people everyone has a role in it Teamwork Makes

1:53:08

the Dream work so all right all right cool well that's episode two so hope you

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