Outdated to Updated - Church Reno - CROWNCAST - Episode 5

This outdated church building needed an AVL facelift! We designed and supplied brand new systems for a modern worship service.

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Crown cast episode five up what's up what's up and uh we're still here still

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live still in our office still working our little buns

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off um how things going you know pretty good we're

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learning a lot about uh editing a podcast lately mhm and how iMovie is the

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uh Pinnacle of video editing we've hey we're taking the Mr Beast approach which

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was do a bunch of videos try to make try to do something a little better each

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time right right so yeah we started with iMovie it was as basic as it got

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right and we moved up so yeah we've since introduced an HDMI splitter one to

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two so that you can view the same screen I'm viewing yeah so I don't have to look this way at some weird monitor across

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the room that's an upgrade yep now I can look at that monitor little bit of a Jedi integration tools

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there we do have the cable to stretched across the room so right that can be an

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upgrade at some point maybe but yeah so yeah so things are going well podcast is fun something different

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kind of breaks up our day a little bit it's been nice yeah to kind of not do

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emails for a bit mhm for those of you that are wondering that's what we do a lot of we stare at a screen all day we

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work through emails right if our email goes down uh we have no company we've talked about it yeah what happens if

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something hits the power grid and network and there's no internet y it would yeah I mean yeah we've always I

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was going to say maybe we didn't do as much email at the beginning but we all we've always used email quite often yeah

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we literally just check I mean it's non-stop emails during the day right and then you clear them out and you're filing them and then you scroll back up

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and there's a whole another page of stuff again all day all day manufacturer

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emails hey check out this new product constantly yep uh then we get so much fraud oh my gosh yeah so much fraud tons

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of uh Chinese LED companies all day long I get calls all day we get uh emails all

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day if the email is ever something random like hey I want to buy 60 20,000

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Lumen Barco projectors right I need them in 3 weeks we're like eh it's probably not real it's always like a TV it's like

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hey I'm from weird I'm from the purchasing department from some company blah blah blah uh I I need two Samsung

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Sr whatever it's like oh yeah they'll give you a model they'll give you a model and then I need like one wireless

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mic and you're like oh let me drop everything I'm doing right sell you TVs that we make there's nothing in it right

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there's no margins in TVs but Best Buy is the only people that make money on TVs correct so if we ever sell you a TV

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it's out of the kindness of Our Own Heart that is a pure luxury item that we're just doing for you so yeah we talk about

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that a lot too cuz we install TVs all the time and you think it's kind of an

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easy thing and it I mean compared to like flying a large line array it's

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different it takes a different set of skills but man the amount of time we spend on working out TV locations with

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clients yeah uh I mean we don't put anything up nowadays until we have a client right beside us saying okay we're

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going to install this right now at 60 in above the floor and is this good is that

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good and everything good yeah we do it all during the design yep all the quantities I want this blah blah blah

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blah and it's all on paper so right we didn't even used to do that in the early days kind of just make it happen so

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we've done that but yeah now even during construction or when we're putting them

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up like we have somebody from the staff come out and look at look at the

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positions is this really where you want it is it this height who else need who else has an opinion on this that's another

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question I I say a lot right cuz there's so many opinions on for some reason TV

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locations and Heights and acoustic panel uh fabric color which we don't touch we don't

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touch I think maybe we helped like one time on a job or something this probably the last time we helped and it was like

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we learned we're not going to pick colors we could pick colors I could all day long yeah I've got a knife for this

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stuff but uh man there are some interior designers that that do some Wild Things

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in these rooms um and I just don't want any part of it yeah and acoustic panels

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are not fun to buy they are expensive and right they're very needed but they

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don't it's not like it's a cool speaker or you know an LED wall or something right but they are a lot of money and

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you don't want to buy one that's the wrong color that doesn't fit your room right so we just we sand it off mhm we

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let whoever has an opinion on it we get we send them the swatches you know they can pick the color that they want and we

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usually don't say anything yeah so if it comes back and it's just wrong we you know we try to help them get it fixed

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but it's not on us yeah stay out of it you know it's it's a tough thing I mean

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these interior designers there's a place for them and we see it on projects where they have an interior designer versus where they don't have an interior

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designer mhm those simple decisions what color or what type of fabric because if

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the Hue's off if say it's like a different Hue like you got like a a blue hue right paint and then you've got a

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red Hue panel it looks off it looks wrong it looks wrong and you're about to cover the walls with these things

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they're everywhere everywhere yeah so yeah I mean we can provide them but we're not

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going to pick your color I would say at least 25% of our clients that choose an

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acoustical panel color and everything don't like it once it's up they're like we chose the wrong Fabric and I went and

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we go we've learned don't get too crazy you

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know I want them to pick a great color that they love Yeah but only they can do

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that right yeah if we do it and they hate it oh boy yeah cuz you can't we

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found out I mean trying to rewrap those or get a new fabric is is you might as

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well just buy new ones you might as well buy new ones yeah which you don't want to do yep well yeah we had a project couple

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weeks ago where I won't say who it was or where it was but uh the super or the

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on site helped pull the acoustical panels out of the back of a truck oh

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yeah and uh we had this thing whole this whole thing coordinated oh yeah we we

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should just uh talk trash about freight companies for real quick can we just get some stuff off our chest about freight

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companies it is majority of days a lot of times of of

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constant phone calls emails any type of Correspondence we can possibly do with

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these companies so that we can coordinate deliveries on time and in the right place because it's not like you

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know a couple boxes are coming in it'll be pallets of stuff huge boxes so there's you know that's that's one thing

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there's big shipments coming in so what do you have to get them off the truck then some of some some freight companies

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won't take them inside for you they just drop them in the parking lot well first off they show up whenever they want yeah the timing thing is is massive because

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we're not on all the we're not on site all the time at all these locations right we have projects all over the

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place happening at the same time and so shipments are coming in and out we're trying to we're trying to coordinate

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with the churches or clients y to be on site to at least accept the delivery if we have the date and the time then that

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usually helps that's another story cuz it usually doesn't happen at the right time but yeah they show up

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unannounced and we get a phone call um hey I'm at I got four pallets for you

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that's all they'll say I have four pallets for you and I have to be like all right um what where are you at what

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address are you state are you in yeah what are you talking about yeah where's it from what is it uh and then we're and

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then we're like oh you were supposed to call us 48 hours in advance so we could set up an appointment oh I'm here now

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okay do you have a liftgate to get it off no I don't have a lift gate I didn't know you don't have a fork fork truck on

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site so and what's worse is when that happens and we're not hearing it from the freight company we're hearing it

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from our client hey we're just hanging out here and someone showed up and they have all this stuff and we're not we're not even there right now we have to

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leave and it's like or it's raining or we have no place to put it yeah you think these freight companies would uh

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respect their own time more meaning they wouldn't just show up on an like when

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when I used to do installs uh kitchen compliance installs I never just showed up at someone's house that's a waste of

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my time if they're not there you call them in the morning or you call them the day before I mean for an install they

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have it scheduled so I was just like hey U I'll be there around 1 p.m. and oh yeah we'll be there these guys they'll

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they'll put thousands of pounds of stuff on the back of their truck drive who knows from where how however many hours

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and show up unannounced and assume that there's going to be a whole crew of people uh cheering them as they back up

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and yeah come on bring us our stuff we yay with forklifts on site and everything absolutely like crazy yeah

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it's it's a nightmare for us constantly and on our every single purchase order we send it says in Big Red Letters lift

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gate required right charge us right you know happily charge us for a lift gate

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give us a freaking truck with a liftgate right delivery appointment required delivery appointment required must call

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24 hours in advance all these things yeah but it never oh don't have a lift gate well that's ridiculous 75% of the

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time it doesn't happen well I'll help you take it down if you give me an extra 50 bucks right bro break down all the

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pallets and unload everything by hand Box by box like it's we've done that yep because of because of these situations

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yep yeah so it's a there's a bunch of coordination there you know obviously

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all this stuff has to go somewhere when it's there right like do they have room in the building are they ready for it

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can they take it somewhere and stack six pallets like most of the time no so all this is planned ahead of time but

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then yeah the freight companies always throw a wrench in the in the situation so back to that little story so a couple

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weeks ago first off we just hear half the panels are destroyed half the acoustical panels that just got uh

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delivered on site is are destroyed right like what what happened and then right away what do we think we better have

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proof of when it happened that it didn't just happen from one of our guys or that it didn't happen like from someone on

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site and just walk away you never know or it's you know coming off the truck was it destroyed in the truck like these

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things are expensive and they take acoustical panels are what like typically 60 days out um built to order

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uh it's all custom so custom stuff and so this one right away we're like oh my goodness what happened you know where's

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it broken how's it all this stuff like oh we think uh we think the super uh broke it we're like are you

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sure can you find out we need to make sure yeah and I guess this guy the

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freight company showed up unannounced like normal in the middle of the night in the middle of the night uh they

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parked in the parking lot we found out oh really and slept there yeah so they were really early yeah and a day early

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and a day early and unannounced right so then our guys weren't on site yet the

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whole plan goes out the window we had it all planned out and ready perfect plan perfect plan ready to be executed until

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some Freight freight company dude's like I've got a different idea I'm going to sleep in that parking lot a day early and I'm going just show up and get rid

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of it yep well uh hopefully he learned a lesson because the super go gets a lull

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yep drives up puts it in picks up the massive pallet starts bringing it out

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and I guess I don't know I can imagine that people are like hey dude uh slow down a bit hey hey let me help you out

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here hey hey well I don't think any of that happened and he comes out and pulls out sideways and takes out half of the

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truck half of the box on the truck just rips it out rips it apart destroys

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almost all the panels that he was pulling out that we've waited two months to get yeah in the and we're like

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installing it right there and then like that day like the whole crew was there to do it that day yep that's just a

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little nightmare story uh welcome to the life of an integrator I mean that's one delivery on one job it never ends yeah

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I'm like dead to it now it's like never ends oh uh freight companies there unannounced with a

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liftgate look at my hand yep whatever of course they are of course they are I was expecting this it's normal um the harder

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you coordinate the harder they fail you it's so annoying if it tends to

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happen to the same client over and over yeah they start getting angry at us and I I I'm like I'm so sorry dude like we

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tell them so many times there's some companies that have they choose freight companies some of some of which are

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worse than others it's all a bidding thing I could think of I think of a couple companies right now that it seems

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to happen to all the time and I could call you out right now on the number one integration podcast in the world and it

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would destroy I won't do it I mean it's obvious that it's like the lowest bidder

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gets the job it's not I want a really good strong company that's going to get

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it there on time and do a good job it's just what's the easiest fastest cheapest

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way of making it happen it's a race to the bottom it is it's biomics and it sucks cuz we I mean it's such a huge

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part of our of what we do I mean everything we order comes through probably 80% of what we order comes

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through Freight C on on pallets and and semis so right we deal with it all the

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time it's an important thing but I was talking to uh I was talking to a rep

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yesterday or one of the Reps that were here yesterday uh and he was mentioning that um this company this led wall

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company they got the same uh Freight and shipping company that Apple uses for

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iPhones uh and they're like the best the absolute best so he was saying that you know like when you when you buy an

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iPhone it shows up like two days later right it comes directly from China yeah I heard that yeah so it's it's not it's

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not going the 10 different spots it's coming China to us right um and so this

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one LED company they figured that out too and they're like all right I've had enough of dealing with the freight and all that stuff so we're going to use

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this freight company and it says it's coming from my company but it's coming directly from China directly to your

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place so that might be enough to move on and try those out yeah I mean it's got

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to be such a crazy world we've heard other stories remember the there was a whole Heist that happened in LA and it's

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with a couple big companies that we work with got heisted is that a word heisted

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was part of the heist a robbed yeah um I won't say the name of the company cuz I don't want you can I'm sure you can find

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it but it was one of the biggest Heist that's happened in the last couple years it just happened like a year ago and it

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was fake freight companies this obviously this had to be like the mob or something like seriously at the airport

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uh yeah at at a at a location at like a at like a facility where everything

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comes like a distribution thing for semis and freight stuff yeah they just showed up they had fake semi trucks with

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logos and everything they had fake uh shirts tags they had fake IDs and they

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had gotten into the system and got all the codes all the tracking stuff all the

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information so they knew every piece they were getting um Mary Kay was a makeup uh

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company that was that got hit too in this but a bunch of Al companies got hit

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I forget how many how many tens of millions of dollars they stole but it was massive crazy and they don't even

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know where this stuff went they never found it so it got on trucks and just go

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went out and then because they were fake trucks with fake license plates with fake everything they couldn't really

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track them and it just it just went out I think they're LED panels we just got a call from that dude million dollars

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worth of inventory try tell it was a lot of really good speakers oh was yeah okay

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I think I remember now um and uh there was some microphone stuff as well uhhuh but yeah it was pretty major I mean that

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just that whole maybe that world is just nuts they should do like a movie a movie

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or a documentary on on that integrator movie movie about integrators and stolen

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gear freight companies there was another story recently about um some dude uh a

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couple people stole a bunch of gold and they got it through um a plane

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so they somehow like figured out how to get it from one place put it on a

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specific plane and then fly it out and then it just disappeared I think they found the guys though but I don't know

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if they got the gold back gold would be hard to steal I mean I know a semi- truck full of heavy speakers would be

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very hard to steal and move I would think right but I guess not rather steal gold yeah I'd rather steal

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gold crazy um where were we going I don't know I can't remember what I was talking about that's that's the we went

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off on the freight the freight company set us off that's the that's part of a podcast you never know what you're going

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to talk about uh but we do kind of know what we're going to talk talk about today today we have a project we're going to go through um we've got uh

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project we did a couple years ago um 2021 yeah 2021 three years with a client

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that we've done a couple jobs with uh a couple interesting jobs we've got one job that we did with them that we'll go

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over at at another date I want to get some more pictures and videos and stuff but um uh turned out really great so

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we'll jump into that in a second um like And subscribe people if you like this

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to help um okay so what project are we going to go over today uh this is

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Bridgepoint church and it's one of their campus locations maybe we should CH chat a

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little bit about that uh we haven't done a podcast yet on like a campus or a

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satellite loc whatever you whatever they call them everybody calls them something different right but in the modern Church

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world you know their multi-site location churches are are pretty uh I don't say

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popular but it's it's a pretty big thing um these days and there's a multitude of

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ways of doing them everyone kind of does it differently MH um and we've done a

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lot of them so I think it the I mean doing podcast on them will probably be cool cuz they are all very different in

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the way that they're set up and how the churches maybe see their locations uh versus other churches see theirs a

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little differently do things a little differently but yeah it's a it's the modern Church setup there's typically a

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broadcast location or the mothership whatever you want to call it that does the main message and then they broadcast

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out to their campuses or their locations or however they want to call them yeah who receive the message and each one of

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these locations is like a little you know a little brother of of the main of the main location right with its own

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staff with its own production with its own everything an operating church but kind of of overseen by by the the big

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broadcast location right you can only fit so many people in one room and it's hard to build a room that's massive so

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having smaller rooms in key locations for these churches seems to be a good a

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good thing yeah that's kind of the idea I think there was probably a time in church history where the buildings just

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start got bigger and bigger and bigger and you can see some of these out west and in Texas where they they seat like a

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almost like a stadium I mean it's T of thousands of people joelin yeah and

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there's some out in California and I mean there's a few more around the country but it seems like it was this I mean tell hey real quick in the

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comment section tell us what you think about Joel ostein we'll get that'll get the conversation going make this the clip and see good

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argument going he's not polarizing at all everyone everyone seems to be on the same page of that one hey that's a podcast I guess we his place is

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ridiculous it's nuts I would love to go there and check it out I heard Rumor Has

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it that they have like something like 80 crowd mics and they have 80 crowd mics and

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it's some poor souls job every week go to go through and edit out all the

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coughs and sneezes of their [Music] room could you

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imagine yeah I mean think yeah a service is what an hour and a half long and they

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got to edit out 80 tracks from different mics over here and there there and I mean who knows how

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they do it but uh that's czy that sounds like a that sounds like a a legend that doesn't even sound real an urban myth 80

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crowd mics too or something stupid like that I don't know maybe it's true I mean these people are crazy they have isn't

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there doesn't their whole like stage come out from the ground I believe so yeah at least part of it and then like the band goes back down or something

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it's like or am I thinking of that one TV show Taylor Swift style like join

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comes out like Taylor Swift and hey I've been saying for years mega church should be a documentary mega

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church this might be the closest we get to mega church I know get a little bit of insight start spilling the beans on

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all the drama we see but um well yeah I mean churches were building their

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buildings bigger cuz people were coming and then it started braning out to it's

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a lot easier like you said to find another location another building build another building right most of the time

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it's what other building can we find in the area and just take it over and turn it into a church y so we've seen a

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variety of different types of buildings and different ways of doing things yeah

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and even Mobile locations too where they just get to a school or a movie theater or a mall or whatever this job we're

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going to go over today it was a retro uh it was a RB of a old mobile yeah of an

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older Church oh yeah is that what you're saying oh misunderstood you no no that

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yeah yeah so the obvious obiously one of the easiest things to do is to like find

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a church building that already exists right because it kind of has the flow of a church building right you know a main

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room a little Lobby some classrooms and then you can make it work but yeah we

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do like I said we've done movie theaters you know stuff in malls stuff in like

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warehouses you know that kind of thing and it's just a mobile setup so anyway this is the modern Church these days

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they they launch campuses all the time and locations sometimes these locations are big and it's a full new building a full

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construction job like a brand new building it's going to be a permanent location and it's almost like it's like

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a real church building like we're going to do a big install versus like a mobile thing um or a temporary thing in a

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building or they share a church building with another church we've done that and people are shearing equipment it gets

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nuts yeah so that's what this that's what this job was Bridgepoint is a church in Tampa and they have a main

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broadcast location but they have other multiple locations that we've helped with and this is one of those yep so so

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this is bridg point seminal campus yep um named after the

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fierce uh Native American tribes of Florida yes watched a documentary on

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Florida the other day it Spanish owned for up till like like 100 years ago or something stupid like that what the

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heck's going on here and it's part of our flag still I don't think it was a 100 years ago W 20000 years 300 years

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400 I don't know but interesting stuff yeah um okay so let's look at some

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pictures of this place um I got some pics uh this is before the magic so um

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that's our boy uh David Edwards he was the worship director there uh for many

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years he's actually just moving on though so David we love you dude you're awesome it was a lot of fun to work with

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you on these projects um you did a great job dude so uh shout out David Edwards

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look at that Arch they did with the drop ceiling yeah so this is uh this is the old

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church um and they acquired it or something I don't know what the thing

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was a lot of times uh you you'll have a church like this an older church that

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they're not doing well right uh kind of on their way out they're on their way out they're the demographic of their

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congregation is like a million years old right and so either time itself is going

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to wipe him out or whatever but sometimes they'll merge or they'll be like hey we got this building and our

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congregation you know we can't keep this thing going right so they'll either gift it or merge and or do a you know they'll

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do a Contemporary Service and a traditional service right um so I don't know how what happened here but this is

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the old church and now we are making it into a more contemporary happening place

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yep so that's the lobby uh we're going to do we do some stuff in here um that's the lobby again

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uh here's the room so it is a you know I don't even know it's this is a very

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unique shape for this room yeah I remember this this was not an easy room to work in nope um it had a raised

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floor um most of the room in the Acoustics were built for the organ heavy

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organ uh venue and so that's why you see that cloud above and I think I've got some

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pictures of too has that really deep inset stage yep that's goes way back um

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it had a hard ceiling and it uh acoustically it was kind of you know it was uh fan out yeah so it was rooms

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shaped like that at this size uh that helps with projecting the actual sound from the stage so people talking or

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singing like just physically in the room it'll it'll kind of be Amplified just like going like this yeah they probably

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did a bunch of stuff in that church before without even Pas and stuff like that without microphones they probably did

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congregational readings and stuff from the the pulpit there y because of the shape of the room yeah very look at the

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hang on go back yeah oops look at the uh just so that they didn't

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forget um look at the light numbers at the top oh yeah I mean look at that those

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are mailbox number those are huge numbers just so you know which light is which from the back that's a that's a

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quick trip to uh I don't know Home Depot to get some uh address numbers yeah

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that's what it is that's what that was usually we we try to hide that stuff they're like no I want it I want to see

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it from Million Miles Away they could see which light was which yep so yeah uh the room all the floor

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also sloped up too not only the walls you know fanned out but the the floor sloped up along with it yep they had the

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crow the Crow's Nest the almighty Crows Nest is where they used to put us people

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us uh Engineers always try to lock us away hey we want you to create the best mix for the people sitting on the floor

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we're going to put you you know 18 ft up in the air in a box in a box hey this

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time we're not going to Glass you in at least oh okay thanks I was going to say I think there's even glass there I don't think there was there wasn't yeah see

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that little hole there that little hole there was for the projector oh crazy sometimes you know at the these older

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churches you see some pretty uh I don't know like uh

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MacGyver yeah level engineering man we see a lot of it too coming into buildings like this right

29:38

and taking stuff out yep we see all the mcgyver so that's the room that's a

29:44

stage see that sloped ceiling it's pretty ridiculous slopes down really hard to the back and you had those wings

29:50

off to the side and there big pillars out on the front that were like really blocking off those sides right a stone

29:59

not to mention a stone back wall right let's add some texture there let's get some Granite on that

30:05

puppy I was watching a video of uh John lner Church John lner designed a church

30:10

his own church I'm not sure where it was I think it's probably in California and he did a ton of that stone stuff that

30:16

and so I think a lot of these these projects were looking back at like some of those old school lner yeah things

30:24

look at those lights man this is okay so this is a you want to know how you get your sound from your organ there you go

30:30

there it is yay look at those uh those pipes I mean those speakers and that's

30:35

what they did yep um so that's above the stage in behind that cloud and uh we did

30:44

not use their organ speakers this was like a little room H

30:49

side or on the back side of the the auditorium so we cut this room in half

30:55

and we made one half a production Suite and then the other half a like a a

31:00

lounge like a green room green room kind of thing yeah so I've got some pictures of uh that's the other side of the The

31:06

Green Room I've got some pictures of uh the production Suite too that we did okay so that was what it looked like

31:16

that was the before and we worked with the church to try and figure out a plan of making this more like bridg point we

31:22

didn't say bridg point is a production heavy contemporary contemporary church

31:27

yeah they have a really great main campus we didn't do it it was before our time uh but it's really clean that first

31:34

campus they have used to be a gym like a like a LA Fitness or something like that

31:39

and they retrofitted it to be a to be a pretty cool room yeah uh but we haven't done much work there um okay so let's

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take a look here um let me

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see so we got some install picks I guess we can kind of go through some of the stuff that we did yeah

31:58

um and then I've got a walk through that we can look at oh look at that here we go uh pallets and cases for acoustical

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panels wow would you look at that it's almost like uh we saw it coming so

32:13

that's what yeah that's this is I bet you know this picture I look at it this now I bet the freight company showed up in the middle of the night dropped that

32:19

down and and you know on the street right in front of like the the driveway

32:24

into the place and just like rolled out I I bet that's what happened we've had it happen and we've had it rain on them

32:31

before remember that fiberglass does not like rain so yeah we did acoustical panels in here so there they all are

32:37

just kind of lined up um here's our production Suite so this was on that side room so we did some they had to do

32:44

some construction in there they did they painted they built some walls uh new power

32:50

everywhere um looks way better than the floral print yeah that was there before

32:55

that's a Crew putting up the the panels according to our design um here's the lobby after got

33:03

painted looks way better we put some screens up uh in the lobby so they can view

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things um yeah so we came up with an idea they had us we put a new screen up

33:16

didn't we they had we yeah we did I can't remember yeah so they had a screen in this location a projector screen but

33:24

it wasn't the right size and I think it was four I think it was like for three aspect Rao but um because this is a video

33:32

campus meaning everything for this campus everything's live they have a a Live host they usually have a campus

33:38

Pastor yep live ban live Bann um but the message is is streamed over right uh by

33:47

a company they use resi uh shout out resi yo yo uh that gets their live

33:55

speaker from their main campus to be a video speaker here so at some point during the service uh typically at like

34:03

hey say hi to your neighbors that's like the secret yes that's a secret moment to

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like do things on stage bring up podiums like move screens around hopefully yeah

34:13

if you like I remember watching Gateway I was at Gateway uh in Texas and their

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little moment like that was pretty wild because they essentially take everything off their stage everything's on a

34:26

everything's on a rolling uh wheel casters or whatever yep and it all has mass connector for like DMX for lighting

34:32

for power and so they have like a team of people like little Oompa Loompas come out and just like bring it all that it's

34:39

it's wild huh so this is that little special moment uh this is just showing uh we we had a projector in there that

34:46

we were aiming but we came up with an idea for this campus because that stage was so weird and it was sloped down so

34:54

you didn't have much you have no height on stage towards the back there's I mean it's short back there right so we came

35:00

up with an idea of putting a screen in that goes up into a banner for worship

35:07

so it's above everyone on stage and then for the message it C it comes down and then you project the the rest of the uh

35:14

right the rest of the image on it so this is a little bit of that so here's our production Suite

35:20

after you know they're programming it and everything looking nice yep so

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pretty typical you know pretty typical uh it's a good little setup for like a mobile not a mobile but a location kind

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of yep so it's got you know three screens one running Graphics output

35:38

multi view from their ATM I can see their ATM here they just using the program so this is a Blackmagic uh ATM

35:45

video switcher and you can use software like this sometimes we do touch screens so just click it uh and there's also

35:51

surfaces for it too so um we put surfaces in every once in a while black magic is like the most

35:58

affordable video stuff you can imagine it's really trendy uh really trendy with

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churches I would it works it works if it doesn't it's like well I paid almost nothing for it so and then okay I'm sorry they don't

36:12

use resi they use high Vision oh crazy yeah they kept on with high Vision so

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high Vision have had a couple different types of uh streaming um they've they've built

36:25

hardware for it and they've had different software for it yeah and so this is their version of the resi so it

36:31

is streaming it can stream in real time and then buffer so that's that's the huge thing back in our day when we were

36:38

trying to do this stuff that didn't exist yet right you had to have a recording deck like a Grass Valley T2

36:44

right or hyper deck and we would from campus to campus at the end of a service

36:49

we'd have that campus Tech director be right there and the second the the service or the message is done we click

36:56

stop on the recording decks either in oh we used Aja decks too too Y and you'd

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grab that hard drive literally eject a hard drive and he'd put it in the hand of the tech director and they would get

37:08

in their car they would drive across town they would put it in place just in time to do that mobile campus service

37:14

put it in their Place rewind or fast forward get get it queued up to where the message is about to start right push

37:20

pause and then get ready and hope that the file wasn't corrupted hope that the whole thing's there right yeah so man

37:28

and that was only I mean yeah 12 13 years ago it's just crazy how the how

37:34

fast this is yeah pushed along but the some of the solutions that are out now like buffering is is the key yeah so I

37:42

want to be able to start playing a video that's not completely the file is not completely done yet right in real time

37:47

so as a service is happening across town we can just program our service to be

37:54

like a minute or two behind couple minute buffer and then you have a couple minutes buffer where it's pulling in all

37:59

that data and creating a the video right so this is high Visions version um

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they're the only they're the only church that I know uh that uses high Vision they've gone through a couple different

38:10

versions of this software and and how it works and I think they like it yeah Ry

38:16

kind of took over the world in that in that genre especially for church stuff

38:21

right which is like we said very popular these days I mean most churches are doing this in some some way or another

38:27

yep okay um let's see here yeah so this is

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uh I'm going to show some more stuff here in a second it's Matt stuff talking about lighting oh who who

38:39

thought hey who let that who let that guys talk about lighting so much oh it's that's Matt yeah this is a little bit of

38:45

training going on um Matt stuff um preaching the word of lighting he's got

38:51

the Vintage Crown hat on man New Era yeah 59 50s those are the Real Deal

38:58

heck yeah um yeah let me show a couple more pictures here um so we did

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like um not sure which way I want to go with this yeah you want to talk about pixel

39:11

strips right now or not I want to do that got a I've got a picture of of one that's pretty cool

39:17

actually um let me see here he just sent it to me I can't find

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it one sec please you stand by all right I found

39:30

it oh there a it there it is cool yeah

39:35

so this is the idea for again we had very limited height that we talked about but at the same

39:43

time we had very limited space on the stage as well like it wasn't a big stage and they needed to fit a whole band up

39:49

there so it was we didn't have a bunch of room for trussing to do lights and we could the we couldn't put a light bar

39:55

because the ceiling was too and so we ended up mounting these pixel bars um

40:02

that this is from Elian um they make a pixel bar and you have the model what

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model is that this is the 60 so it's a so they make three different sizes which

40:12

is kind of cool you can do a half meter you can do a meter which is what these are and you can do a 2 meter so you can

40:18

kind of pick and choose you can mix and match and make different designs out of them if you want um they all connect

40:24

with a four pin cable so it's not DMX is it proprietary yeah it is for their

40:31

stuff but no it's for it's for theirs because it it does power as well we've tried to

40:37

use actually that's funny story we tried to use some different four pin cables on them before and it didn't work so

40:42

there's something going on in there but yeah they connect with four pin cables the one of the limitations of these is

40:49

that you can only have a certain amount of cable length um you can only have a certain amount of fixtures per cable run

40:55

but you can also only have a limited amount of cable length in general so you want to make sure you put them generally

41:02

close together so you can get enough on a driver to make sense for the money um and then what we're doing here is not

41:09

sending DMX to these uh we're actually sending video content to these and they're pixel mapped um using what we

41:17

usually use Archos to do that and yeah I saw it in the other picture yeah you can send basically a moving background you

41:24

know that matches your other moving backgrounds in the room you can send it to this and it'll have that same kind of

41:29

vibe same kind of colors and match but it's it makes a good background for the stage they're not super bright so

41:35

they're not like blinding people in the eyes like a normal light fixture is it's more of an eye candy type fixture to

41:41

just look at and do cool stuff with right yeah you can see everything's uh

41:46

painted so we put two TVs on stage because they there's no other way of like showing lyrics so for the front

41:53

front row um so this projector screen up here this is the banner I think that's

41:58

the old one though I think the new one's longer uh that was the banner projector uh so if you're up front row

42:05

you couldn't see it it was just too close there's no other way I it tough little stage to figure out so we put we

42:10

put like a a a stage a stage left and a stage right TV just for like the front row essentially right and then everyone

42:17

else could see the could see the banner we also did something unique with the lighting in there like we said we

42:23

couldn't put light bars cuz we couldn't get them in so we have vertical yeah we have vertical light bars you can see

42:30

right on the edge of the front of the stage you can see those lights right there yep um yeah we put a light pipe

42:36

and we're able to put some lights there we did do some front lighting uh with their original uh with their setup that

42:43

they had yeah I think the numbered setup yeah so yeah you can see the light bars right there on the left and right mhm so

42:51

kind of a wild room it's tough to work in tough to figure out uh actually this

42:57

shot makes it look real real busy I don't know what's up with this the lights are on 100% the lights are on you're seeing everything you're seeing

43:03

things you're not supposed to see right now they just painted those rocks on the back oh crazy cool um and we can see the

43:10

PA here let's go over the PA I want to show some stuff so this room was tough we weren't we

43:18

were obviously not going to use the organ speakers thank thank goodness we didn't get asked to reuse those speakers and

43:25

they had some other they had another little couple speakers in there for like their their actual pa um but no way on

43:32

Earth we're going to use that stuff it's absolute crap so uh we had launched a

43:37

mobile campus with them uh for Clear Water yep and I'm not sure if they kept

43:43

I think they M they moved it around or something I can't remember what happened but for Clear Water for that room we

43:50

built a whole mobile system for them MH uh and then we spec some speakers uh from Acoustics yep that hit

43:59

their budget uh and it worked in it worked in that room really well um and

44:05

then they wanted to save the money and use them in this room so they right pulled them over and used them over here

44:11

and so let's go over them real quick so these are the um these are some cool

44:16

speakers these are the L acoustic Seas look at those puppies what the heck are

44:22

those what is that look at that I remember seeing these for the first time thinking that looks stupid that was my initial

44:30

thought but uh very surprising for what they sound like that yeah so this is uh

44:38

the SAA top and then like the SAA um low or the SAA and the Sea low right so the

44:45

SAA is that piece right there and that's top piece it's like kind of like a column array or I don't know what you

44:50

want to call it but there's a bunch of speakers in there do you have the stats on that yeah and it's uh it's small too

44:56

so or it's skinny I should say it's tall and skinny but yeah the stat or the

45:01

speakers they have six 5 in speakers in there and then three 1.75 in speakers so

45:08

small little small guys um they claim uh it can get down to 87 Hertz with these

45:16

so 87 all the way up to 20K this is that's their Spectrum here is that the low or is that just the top that's just

45:22

the top okay yeah down to 87 I don't know all right so uh has it's really

45:28

wide it's got a 140 degree throw uh horizont and it's true yeah it just

45:33

throws like it's wild straight wide yep um you get some control of your on the

45:39

vertical too which is kind of cool um but yeah this thing's uh taller than you

45:46

might think it's where I just had that up it weighs about 50 lbs not the lightest thing it's kind of chunky um

45:52

but it's only 5 in wide that's how you know that's how you know it's quality when it weighs a lot yeah I guess doesn't make you feel good a heavy

45:58

speaker when you're look at it at the front it's only 5 in wide from the front right so pretty skinny and it's

46:06

about 60 in tall I think um I can't see it you see these a

46:13

lot for I've seen these a lot being used uh for um uh fashion events I think I saw it at

46:22

like yeah I remember seeing that video of a fashion event when for they had

46:27

them they had more than one little columns right it's about 50 in tall so a

46:33

little over 4T tall 5 in wide um I guess the unique thing is it

46:39

has that curvature like you see right there with that top piece right um so

46:45

that's the SAA 137 DB what they're claiming so that's pretty dang loud from

46:50

this thing I think they say that the SAA with AA low uh has the same output as a

46:56

K2 a too yeah which is one of their big their big puppies um I don't I can't I don't know

47:02

yeah so I'll I'll take the word for it if you go to the Sea 2 or this uh C low CU this kind of pairs with it so that

47:09

looks more like a traditional speaker that you're used to seeing it's just a rectangle box right has two 12-in

47:14

speakers in it that's the mids and low mids yep gets you down to 40 htz um so

47:19

that mix with the top you know y pretty decent for like a mobile setup y um with

47:25

those two kind of cool because you take this piece the sea and uh it has pin it has just

47:32

contact pins at the bottom right and when you uh put it on top it just clicks in Click and now all of your cabling

47:40

goes to the calow right and so you're sending you know it's an nl4 so you're sending two different um channel amp

47:47

channels yeah one goes to the tops one goes to the to the low uh and they work

47:52

in tandem yeah so they couple and work together yep and I think the uh the

47:59

claim for these speakers and I've kind of witnessed it in real life is because of this column array it it sends more

48:05

high frequencies at the top right than the bottom so you get a bit of uh high

48:10

frequency gradient from the back to the front right uh this works really well

48:16

anywhere you have a flat floor because now you're it's it's direct to the back

48:22

right and we're using we're I've spec this for another project we have coming up y um because it's it's a really it'll fit the

48:28

room really well but uh for for their campus for their mobile campus we actually engineered a cool uh case for

48:36

it yeah because they were in and out of this school all the time and I can show you that if you want super convenient

48:42

for setting up and tearing down this PA and having like a quality sounding PA right but being able to just throw that

48:49

thing on top it clicks in yeah you're not running tons of cables and then we paired it with uh

48:55

with so that gives that extra at the bottom right you know the seow will give

49:01

you some you know but it's not going to give you that big of a punch they make a sea sub as well right and it just it's

49:07

the same size same same cabinet as the sea low it's just uh engineered to be lower frequencies right but we didn't in

49:15

this scenario it worked really well and I'll show you here how we how we engineered this case and built this whole thing but it worked really well

49:22

this this box has all the rigging that work for landing that SAA low on top of

49:29

this on top of the sub y so let's take a look here so this is a this is a design we

49:39

did so wow look at that it all fits in that little box well kind of so this is uh this is a case that if

49:45

you were to uh open it it kind of looks like that so what

49:51

you can see here is a base with casters you have your sb18 on it uh we found a

49:56

way of rigging the uh calow uh base plate to it worked out really well and

50:03

then you have kind of a two shell uh scenario here for for closing it up so you'd pop off these two

50:10

shells uh then there's a trunk and the trunk itself we had built

50:16

uh with foam to to house these seas and then we also had some uh some front

50:22

fills these are the uh F 5 XTS y and then uh you know we we had some we

50:31

had some uh drawers put in and then this is what it looked like

50:36

so it was like this so it could roll around get in place and you ran I forget

50:41

what we did for the cabling we may have ran one just one cable like a six conductor cable with an with like an nl2

50:47

for here and an nl4 for here and it ran it just got all so it's really simple one cable run it up click it in the back

50:53

click it in the back and you're you're Off to the Races yep so that's what it looked like in our in

51:00

our brains in our designing brains uh I'll show you what it look like in real life so I can find

51:07

it so boom that's David Edwards about to put the SAA on top of the SAA low that's

51:15

on top of the S SP 18 and that's is that bar and accessory on the back of the SAA yep yeah there's a can't remember if we

51:21

just made that or if that's an accessory with that speaker yep there's a an accessory for uh for a pipe a speak a

51:29

speaker pole yep that just ended up working out really well for managing the

51:34

speakers handle yeah yeah you see the connections on the bottom yep yep so

51:40

this is an this is a sb1 18i the install version I think um here's the case so you can see

51:48

kind of how that sea just lands in there look really good and then the little two spots at the top for the uh 5 XTS yep

51:57

sitting there's the shell and that's it closed up so exactly like the rendering

52:02

it's almost like it's like magic and then that's uh yep that's the the case with um the drawers in it or

52:10

the uh the shelving so uh Odyssey Odyssey cases yep made it happen Mario

52:17

love you buddy thanks for the help turned out great and let me see if I can find it uh picture of it in that room

52:24

yeah so so yeah this is the picture of it this is their other campus so this was this is Clear Water yep but yeah you

52:30

can see it in all it's glory turned out great so like we said earlier when

52:37

churches are launching these locations they they move things around a lot as

52:42

well they might have other locations that they can pull some equipment from and and make something else happen because they have a opportunity to take

52:49

over a building or something and they want to just get in there quickly right and so that's where the pa came from for

52:55

this simol building that we've been talking about came from another Bridge Point location that was using it as a

53:01

mobile setup and they ended up moving it to simol yep I threw I threw them in sound

53:09

Vision sound vision is L Acoustics uh um guessing software yeah they guess they

53:17

guess on what the sound is going to do in that room across the floor uh it's actually very intuitive works really

53:24

well and so here you can see the SAA SAA low and sp18 and the two front fills and

53:31

what it looks like on the floor so I like these speakers man they sounded good they did gradient you know

53:38

highest to the back and it felt it felt really good tuning them um was was

53:44

pretty easy they are very wide yeah they're very wide which is a true

53:49

there's a true width there a lot of these speaker companies they say a certain yeah width say 110 a certain

53:55

disparition width and it I guess the sound getss out that long but you only get like this much real sound like when

54:01

you're in the center of it you're getting laser beam every frequency second you walk outside of that it's

54:06

like dull and gone right so this is a very even dispersion

54:13

horizontally and then a not not even vertically so we're sending highs in the back sending mids and you know less less

54:20

of it in the front and it worked out pretty good in this room uh tuning the room the room was wonky obviously it was

54:28

tough yeah um there weren't a ton of like slapback and everything cuz the shape of the room that worked well uh it

54:35

was powerful you had adequate frequency response across the room because of the

54:41

width of those speakers um front to back it was okay in this scenario and I liked I like the

54:48

speakers man I think they sound great um I think they work well for certain applications I don't know if I would

54:54

have done this in this room like I wouldn't have I wouldn't have said oh hey look at this room we got to put some seas in there I wouldn't have done that

55:01

right uh We've we actually did a couple different designs for this room tried to see if we could hang a PA and end up

55:07

being just not cost effect I mean it's just it's going to be a lot yeah it's kind of rolling with the flow of the job

55:13

they were trying to get in this building and they knew they had this PA sitting there so then it turns into okay can we

55:19

make it work and yeah we can make it work and it's it's pretty good yep so it

55:25

worked out well and uh I think I had some pictures of it in the room I think we already saw it

55:31

but let me take a look yeah you can see it you can see him

55:37

there that yeah so that's pretty tall from

55:42

from the floor up right I mean that top piece is you know over 4 feet on its own

55:47

so yep you're a good8 ft or 9 ft there yep um of speakers yep it's getting

55:55

getting over people's heads and it's a little easier to manage than trying to get a point like a larger point source

56:00

that high right on a big stand I mean that's tall for a for a speaker stand yeah and it didn't take up much

56:07

room since they're so wide we could spread them all the way out and um it's

56:13

it worked it worked for the room for sure okay so then we got we got

56:20

launch uh here we go let's let's jump into it so this kind of a walk through here I can kind of press pause here a

56:26

little bit this is the lobby all cleaned up painted nice uh blacked out ceiling

56:33

which is the true Mark of a contemporary church I was going to say it's in every conversation of every job we have if

56:40

there's a ceiling one we're going to Black it out or two we're going to take it out and if we take it out then we're

56:46

going to black out the rest of it that's showing above so yeah yep so uh it's not

56:52

a true contemporary church until you black out the ceiling as soon as you do that you're you're done you're going to

56:57

lose all your old people you're going to get a bunch of young people coming um so yeah I'm going to walk in

57:03

through the production Suite here real quick oh this is like a mother's room over here we did we did a bunch of TVs

57:10

all across the whole campus so they had the ability to send certain uh program

57:15

feeds or from from their video router all the stuff they had in it and they

57:20

could send it to the mother's room yep uh they could send it to the kids' classrooms uh all over the place so they

57:27

distributed video across the across the the whole yeah they rened this whole building Ren outed the whole building yeah all the classrooms and stuff we

57:33

didn't do much in there other than some TVs but they did the whole thing yep so we're going to walk into the

57:40

production Suite here boom I tried to pause it there that was the only place we could put a rack yeah rack's living

57:47

in the production room there we go there's a rack there the equipment rack never gets any uh any love any respect

57:54

even though our racks look really good and they're really clean um but no respect for the rack so that is their

58:00

equipment rack in the production Suite in fact I can see a side panel for it right there this is a this might not be

58:05

a this is probably the first service we're probably in there doing something but you can see here program

58:13

uh multiv View and a there's the banner screen we talk about yeah we're going to see that in a second how they how they

58:18

ran with it there's the pixel bars yep there's the PA

58:27

propresenter shout out renewed vision for giving us the uh the blessing of

58:34

propresenter for all us churches what was the other one called back in the day people used to use like sh worship shout

58:39

or say it's worship something it's either that or like

58:45

PowerPoint PowerPoints worship shout out something and then propresenter came to

58:50

our rescue and uh they've come a long way man they took over the world as

58:56

but we still de it there updates and Bo got got to wait on the updates yeah wait

59:02

on the updates people never update so yeah you can see here this is the the

59:07

this was the solution for during worship it it had the banner at the top with lyrics um so that was a custom look in

59:14

propresenter to make it look you know so that you weren't like shooting images on people's

59:20

face uh what projector we put in here ooh it was existing it's a Barco so I

59:26

don't know what it was I don't know was it existing yep cuz all we did was get him a lens oh okay my bad never mind

59:33

forget it then the projector's dead to me if I didn't sell it to you it is a Barco though it's a Barco they had a

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Barco dude here that's why they're connected this is the bridg point is connected they have someone at their church that has he does he still work

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for Barco yeah we talking about the other day yeah did you talk to him the other day I've talked to him yeah I

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talked to him a few weeks ago for that other job okay yeah yeah yeah yeah he hooked it up because we did a we did a

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big Barco at we did a big laser downtown campus and we got yeah we had the custom

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thing yeah C some Mount build oh that's right yeah we'll go over that in another in Crown cast episode uh 125 we'll do it

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yeah uh if we're still alive so here we have on the right have some multirack

1:00:17

recording we put an Avantis here in here the good old alen Heath Avantis I believe we had DT 168

1:00:26

on stage they're they're digital snakes everything Dante everything's networked audio which

1:00:32

is awesome um then you can see here on the

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left this is our chaos so this is playing videos and what what what's it doing

1:00:43

there Ben that's just playing video going to the pixel bars got so they probably are playing the same moving

1:00:50

background that they're playing on their projector screen from propresenter I would assume and that's what makes it

1:00:56

match so gives you the same kind of colors and stuff right so what protocol

1:01:03

do we send to those uh pixel bars so it's you can map it you can use

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it Uhn or you can use a cing net or you can use artet we typically use something

1:01:17

we use clling net if we can because it's a lot easier to set up if you haven't used it before it finds your fixtures

1:01:22

for you it starts and stops at fixtures Channel count on your own um artet you got to set all that up

1:01:29

yourself you got to put in all the crazy universes and channel counts it takes forever cleanet does it for you so

1:01:35

that's that's what that's what uh Archos uses and then you can trigger like we said before you can set up dimming

1:01:40

channels from Vista and you can trigger those R chaos Channel strips over there

1:01:45

from your Vista console so you don't have to have two people work in those areas

1:01:51

right that way you get continuity across these pixel bars and your you're moving background and all the color kind of it

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just it envelops the stage makes it look uh you know makes it look intentional

1:02:03

makes it look uh Dynamic yep there's the same moving background like we were saying you saw that over on the RKOs one

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a second ago y so there're using the same image one's on the projector one's on going to the TV as well you can see

1:02:15

it there on the side TVs and then it's also shooting to those pixel bars that's right I think right here they had a

1:02:22

producer position so we have a a producer in the room room that is kind

1:02:27

of watching and hearing and listening and everything and they are kind of like the last word on what happens in the

1:02:33

service and so they have a producers position here with um macros for their

1:02:39

video writer so they can he can look at anything they want from that position on that monitor you can see here we have a

1:02:46

touchcreen so we set them up with CIS uh automated everything turn the

1:02:51

projector on off uh turn on uh uh they

1:02:56

can run a small service without any uh Tech right without any from that touch

1:03:02

screen right so they don't need to get an audio engineer they don't have to turn anything on they can just go up to that touchcreen and whoop whoop and

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bring up a couple mics music and all that fun stuff

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so amazing wow and all the all the lighting in the room look cool yeah it's a big change yep let's

1:03:22

see what else we got look at this is packed see that's just there I think they just

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uh told the crowd uh hey uh we have the crown Design Group guys here and everyone just

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erupted in Applause they're standing up obviously they weren't before but they are now they're like I've never seen

1:03:42

production this this amazing like wow Crown designs here wow that's what was

1:03:48

happening there but you can kind of see um I guess there just kind of just about

1:03:53

to start service kind of pum pretty Challenge on that stage I mean look how many people I remember them having a a

1:03:59

bunch of people and they had a big drum kit that's why everything had to be so smashed to the sides on this stage

1:04:06

yep yeah n during service looks like a modern oh we praise you production

1:04:13

driven Church yep looking good seeve is kicking sounded good look good

1:04:19

everything good worked out well um I got some other cool pcks

1:04:28

looks great see what else we got this this lighting was pretty

1:04:35

wild this is uh what I call this the seizure shot that's Matt stuff's uh he loves

1:04:42

giving people seizures yep I mean look at the exit signs are really bugging me now that I'm seeing

1:04:47

these pictures there's a million of them look at them we talked about it with them I know they had to have

1:04:54

itess emergency like their own light safety systems

1:05:00

yep but you know when you're looking at this room from what it was to what they turned it into and you know how we

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helped bring it into this era it it did feel way different when you walk in that room it was not the same thing yeah and

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it showed the value in in uh you know branding and creating a like environment

1:05:22

from campus to campus yep I know of churches that have a smell M they have a

1:05:27

a smell a they pump in a smell they have a smell maker yep um that they put in their Lobby and their Auditorium and

1:05:34

then they make sure that all their campuses have the right the same smell which is pretty wild yeah cuz a

1:05:40

multi-site church if you're the church you want people to be able to have at least some somewhat of the same

1:05:47

kind of experience regardless of where they go I mean I mean obviously the buildings are different and somewhere

1:05:53

bigger and bigger Pas and lights and stuff but but you want to have something you know that feels like

1:05:59

you're at the same church right so it's it's how the room look and we help a lot

1:06:05

with that with you know with lighting and stuff like that how's it sound a lot a lot of times they want to use the same

1:06:10

types of PA right probably different speakers but the same types yeah and

1:06:15

then yeah you you do what you can do with the building you have I mean obviously we saw the the beginning of

1:06:21

this building what it looked like before and bridg point wanted it to look like what they do in the other building so

1:06:29

there's a lot of conversations and design stuff that goes on in between to make all that happen and then you just

1:06:37

you can't do it exact obviously it's a different building but different aspects and pieces yeah you try and take the DNA

1:06:43

you try and put the DNA in it uh make it make it resemble even though it's a different floor plan different uh I mean

1:06:52

that Auditorium is ridiculous I mean you'd never build that nowadays those days are gone right no one's building churches like

1:06:57

that anymore right but uh yeah the it worked you walked in there it felt right

1:07:04

it felt cool um it sounded great looked great just another uh another

1:07:09

win yeah I think this is you want to hear the future

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internet I think the future should look like this I think that having someone at one

1:07:24

campus like a Master at one campus and like a broadcast campus I think it would be better if you

1:07:30

had no single broadcast campus but you had like a production truck and the

1:07:37

pastor the lead Pastor whoever's speaking would show up at any random campus right so you never knew cuz a lot

1:07:44

of people complain that they don't like watching the video Even though 5 seconds into watching the video they forget

1:07:49

about it right they forget this video but you know some people TR only go to a

1:07:55

main camp campus because they have a live speaker like they literally that's the only reason they go there even if

1:08:00

they'll pass they'll pass a a satellite campus on their way to a main campus a

1:08:06

broadcast campus just so that they have someone in real life in that in that spot yep how many times have has have we

1:08:14

pitched that idea so many time we've done drawings designs we've done a bunch of stuff for it but imagine that don't

1:08:21

invest in one location infrastructure for broadcast

1:08:27

uh put a little bit of infrastructure in every campus have your cameras and your

1:08:32

switchers and your production staff be be mobile and you I mean the staff would

1:08:38

know what campus the staff would you know hey this week we're doing this campus right out of town or whatever but

1:08:44

you don't promote it you don't promote it no one knows where the the lead

1:08:50

Pastor is going to be speaking from or whatever you show up at your small campus location that you attend

1:08:56

and you might show up and all of a sudden there's cameras everywhere right which you never see and then you then you know oh main Pastor is going to

1:09:03

speak live here this week I think it's cool it brings it I mean it makes it

1:09:08

makes the campuses feel very much a part of what's going on right uh maybe more a part of it instead of just getting video

1:09:14

all the time there's Logistics involved in it obviously you know you want the video to look a certain way and look

1:09:21

good and that kind of thing and the pastor has going to have to travel around you know maybe they're not comfortable doing that but right I think

1:09:27

it's a really cool idea I think it'd be a fun kind of exciting thing for for

1:09:32

churches to try yeah like I we've pitched it and it we keep getting we keep getting

1:09:38

nose I have a bad feeling that it's all because of the Green Room I was going to say the the Comfort pastors love their

1:09:45

green rooms I you know I get it they want to get in that space they want to I get it yeah they and they want to feel

1:09:52

confident about going out so yeah it would definitely be different did you Jus have a green room he did not and

1:09:58

he's still performed Miracles it's true so I think that would be the way to do

1:10:04

it man I think it'd be really cool so then you do smaller buildings you do a sweet spot of like 800 an 800 room that

1:10:11

seems to feel really good every every campus that we launch of around 800 room that if they know what they're

1:10:17

doing they can fill it yeah it feels full it doesn't seem small right but it

1:10:24

doesn't seem massive either right it still kind of feels homey and and it's

1:10:29

from a production standpoint it's way easier to do an 800 room versus like a

1:10:34

2500 room or something like that right uh it's definitely on your budget as well yeah so yeah and then you could get

1:10:41

this model that you really like and you could plop those things around you don't need as much property you don't need as

1:10:47

much parking all the things that go into building a building right um and then

1:10:53

yeah and then it kind of looks the same too so yeah it really wouldn't matter what campus you went to you'd kind of

1:10:59

have the same experience yeah not big location and then you try another one

1:11:05

and it's a 200 seat Hershey Kiss wood building that just seems completely

1:11:10

different other than some lights and the pastor on the video right so my guess is

1:11:16

and what I I guess what we've seen over the last couple years especially since Co though has been consolidation yeah

1:11:22

so as you know the pandemic tried to shut everyone down Y and uh and so

1:11:30

people couldn't meet people couldn't you know these campuses just kind kind of got thrown like well sorry especially if

1:11:36

you're meeting in a school yeah it was over you could not get in there they just shut everything

1:11:42

down uh for churches to meet they'd have to it was just ridiculous some of them were ridiculous they had to still be 6

1:11:47

feet apart like that worked and then uh they had to do all this other stuff right so what we've seen over the last

1:11:53

couple years is is honestly a sad consolidation uh we've seen these campuses get destroyed by government

1:12:01

telling us what to do and then also inflation and everything they they're sitting on they're sitting on a uh you

1:12:09

know land or a spot in in a wherever uh

1:12:14

they've retrofitted a location in a shopping area or a mall and they've Consolidated they've

1:12:20

sold that land and now they all want to be in like a bigger room and just kind of all come into one place so it's the

1:12:26

opposite of what I want it's the opposite of what I think would be awesome is to have just the 800 rooms

1:12:32

everywhere right and then move that move that Pastor around even give him give him a freaking Green Room in every

1:12:37

single building a small little green room where we can get his act together and yeah put it together I don't know when are when when

1:12:44

are people going to start listening to me I don't know what what do we know what do we know we're just uh AVL integrators that deal with some of the

1:12:50

fastest growing churches in America and we see how church is done across all these different verticals and I just had

1:12:56

this conversation yesterday with a with a church client that we uh they're getting ready to launch in a couple

1:13:01

weeks but and they're all you know falling off a cliff I mean it's just everyone's on edge and you know

1:13:08

deadlines and all this um and I'm just like we do this every week like the way

1:13:15

what you're feeling right now is just our normal days right so but it is I mean most churches do this what once a

1:13:21

decade when they build a new building or if they launch campuses maybe once or twice a year or once a couple years yeah

1:13:26

we do it all the time so it's just it's kind of our world we see it all yeah it's interesting it's I love

1:13:35

being able to see different churches doing different things I love picking up on little uh special little things that

1:13:40

they do that like are helpful to the community or like cool in the service or helpful to to their

1:13:46

congregation um and it's it's cool how you see some of that stuff spread um but yeah well this project was

1:13:53

awesome it was a couple years ago three years yeah yep everything's still working well we we didn't really get

1:13:59

many calls after that I going to say I have I have an email that I just found in my digital

1:14:07

clutter from David oh yeah just at the end he

1:14:13

says I finally got a vacation after the launch he said well you guys did it

1:14:20

again absolutely killed it now we because we had done a couple projects with them before so yep absolutely

1:14:26

killed it thankful that you guys took the project on you do such great work

1:14:31

everyone loves how things turned out and the transformation that took place in the building so far from what I've been

1:14:38

told things on Sunday have gone very well thank you for sending all these

1:14:43

documents over thank you again for all the help uh we appreciate it very much so oh my goodness this is why we do what

1:14:51

we do oh my gosh David you're you're a legend bro thank

1:14:57

you for the kind words um it went well it went well another I

1:15:03

mean not to Pat our own back but most of our projects go pretty dang well um most

1:15:09

of them launch pretty strong yeah word has gotten around that Crown can make it happen yeah and it's because we can make

1:15:16

it happen we do it so often in so many different ways yep so many varieties of

1:15:22

buildings and launches and whatever yep that's kind of what we're sharing with the podcast is just the plethora of

1:15:29

projects and different differences between them yeah so we've seen it all mhm and we're pretty D good at it heck

1:15:38

yeah if you are looking for an AVL integrator uh I know of one and I'm sure

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Service uh you can visit us at www.c crdesign

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unbelievable not worth it unbelievable well uh yeah Crown desig group.org uh get get a hold of us we'd

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1:17:33

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1:17:39

you right there and then before you even know about it or let you know hey dude uh your whole thing's down um someone's

1:17:46

going mental on your on your system I don't know typically it's like the power went out right or uh someone unplugs

1:17:53

something and we see a bunch of stuff going go down and we go hey dude uh just to let you know this ain't on hey it's

1:17:58

good to know beforehand though instead of walking in before service and being like what the heck why is my network down the life of a technical director at

1:18:05

a church show up Sunday morning big smile on your face coffee in your hand and then nothing works now now what

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Crown care is here to help anything else Ben uh the podcast is on Spotify now I

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